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Re: Joe Di Maulo killed?
[Re: BarrettM]
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DiMaulo and Desjardins were very close. But now Di Maulo is dead and Raynald is in jail, Montagna dead, the Arcuri patron dead, the Arcuri sons in hiding, etc. Is Vito facing that much competition now? Who's next. Tony Magi? To me, this could go a couple of ways, but maybe someone else can another light on it. The question I am examining is whether 1- this is an internal Calabrian hit on one of their own; a guy who may be too informed and know too much, in addition to taking advantage of perfect timing (knowing that ppl right away would say it's Vito -- since he's been released) If so, is it just coincidence that Arcuri and Di Maulo both go down in weeks since Vito's been out? 2- it actually is Vito carrying this out and reasserting himself at the top. One MTL headline this morning read "Di Maulo, No.2 in Montreal Mafia, goes down" The only other guy left from the "old guard" missing from this equation is Moreno Gallo (deported). There was no word on any beef between Di Maulo and anyone else. Sonny is right though-- this is BIG.
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Re: Joe Di Maulo killed?
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it s a retaliation of the arcuri faction
di maulo is part of the desjardin faction vs montagna-arcuri-pietrantonio Could very well be the case. Maybe they chose to kill him now that Rizzuto is reportedly back in Montreal and hoping that the blame would fall upon him. But it's to early too make these sort of assumptions. Maybe it was the Arcuri-Pietrantonio-Bonanno group, maybe some renegades like Giuseppe De Vito or Andrea Scoppa, maybe it was the Rizzuto group, maybe street gangs. In other words, it could have been anybody.
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Re: Joe Di Maulo killed?
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http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=638942&Searchpage=1&Main=23638&Words=%22giuseppe+de+vito%22&Search=true#Post638942 I read this thread and it helped a lot. I didn't really understand that Montagna and Desjardins both had factions and not just small crews. The underworld really split in half. So basically we would have. Montagna dead Tony Suziki alive Lorenzo Lopresti dead Domenico Arcuri dead 4 Arcuris alive + Raynald Desjardins jailed Vittorio Mirarchi jailed Joe Di Maulo dead Giuseppe Colapelle dead Tony Suzuki is sort of the last man standing, and he wasn't one of the bosses. Vito's got this  I think it's interesting that Di Maulo wasn't jailed with Desjardins and Mirarchi. Just speculation, but it's possible he had seniority and didn't have to get his hands as dirty. If not, maybe he was a faction unto himself, and had to be removed by Vito. It's anyone's guess.
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Re: Joe Di Maulo killed?
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11/05/12 10:18 PM
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I'd be shocked if Arcuri was behind this. I don't think anybody can be sure Domenico Jr. is breathing these days. He hash't been spotted in months and apparently didn't show up to his old man's funeral. It seems he's the guy who betrayed the Rizzuto's from the inside and allowed for them to get picked off so surgically.
Say what you want but with all thats happened the papers say Di Maulo 50 years plus into the game was still walking the streets with no body guard despite all thats happened over the last few years. Thats a real mafioso.
The montagna-arcuri faction has taken as many if not more hits than the Desjardins-Dimaulo faction. Montagna, Giseuppe "George Renda and depending on what you believe Lopresti, Pietrantonio survived a shooting, And Arcuri Sr. who passed under strange circumstances to say the least.
I think for both Lopresti and Pietrantonio it is still up in the air on whether they were still with the Rizzutos. Lopresti's funeral was still at the Rizzuto's funeral home and that hasn't been the case with other's who betrayed the them.
The Rizzuto's appear to have be on the offensive ever since Rocco Sollecito was first parolled in the summer although it was quickly revoked they seemed to start striking back It started with George Renda vanishing and the last person seen with him a [BadWord] relative and then although minor the firebombing campaign against the Arcuri's afterward. As the papers stated about the Di Maulo hit it appears to be a message with it happening nearly 2 years to the Day Nick Sr was killed and in a similar fashion.
My guess is sometime soon we hear of Arcuri Jr and Magi meeting gruesome ends. I'm most interested to see if the Violi's or Vincenszo DeMaria's family in Ontario start to get hit.
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Re: Joe Di Maulo killed?
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11/05/12 11:59 PM
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I think we are talking the same person but just in case I'm talking Giseuppe "Joe is right I was putting Geroge" Renda who was a member of the Bonanno Family from New York and stationed in Montreal. No relation to Paulo Renda, Vito's brother in law. He disappeared in the summertime and according to papers was last seen with a family member of Agostino Cu-ntrera . I think this was likely an act of Vengeance taken upon by the [BadWord] family as opposed to anything Rizzuto ordered.
Up until that time I like others on here wondered if Cun trera's or at least those in Toronto may have approved of the hit on Agostino. This may well have been the case but recent information states Agostino's son Liborio is still a Vito supporter not that that proves anything at all.
The book Bloodlines written about the Caruana-C-untrera's which is out of date now but back when it was written there was mention in it of how the Caruana-C-untrera's stationed in other parts of the world didn't think the family in Montreal gave enough support to those back in Sicily. I don't think this was the cause for any type of real animosity though.
Rocco Sollecito from what I have read was Number 4 behind Nick, Vito and Paulo Renda. He and Vito were friend's as children and was apparently very close to Paulo Renda also. The structure of the Rizzuto's is up for debate but he was part of the inner circle at the top of the family.
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Re: Joe Di Maulo killed?
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Holy Crap, forget Whitey Bulger and the boston garbage, Hollywood should be setting their sights on Montreal. Starring Nicholas Cage as Vito. Your right Mike Hollywood should take a look at Canada. But Nicholas Cage Fuggetaabouitt
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Re: Joe Di Maulo killed?
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11/06/12 01:14 AM
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So I realize what i'm posting isn't specifically the point of this thread, but I feel like it's relevant enough and is fairly interesting. I made it up myself and I don't believe I'm missing anyone.
Deaths in the Montreal Mafia War 2008 - Present
• Joe Di Maulo , 70, Shot to Death – November 2012
• Pierre-Paul Fortier, 27, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War – October 2012
• Frederick Murdock, 33, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War – October 2012
• Vincent Pietrantonio, 53, Shot and Wounded, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - October 2012
• Tommy Pietrantonio, 28, Shot and Wounded, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - October 2012
• Domenico Arcuri Sr. , 79, Died Suspiciously – October 2012
• Ben Zaid Moez Ben Ali, 34, Shot to Death, Possibly an Innocent Civilian – August 2012
• Riccardo Ruffolo, 34, Shot to Death – August 2012
• Chenier Dupuy, 37, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War – August 2012
• Lamartine Paul Severe, 42, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - August 2012
• Walter Ricardo Gutierrez, 60, Shot to Death – July 2012
• Giuseppe "Joe" Renda, 53, “Missing” – May 2012
• Salvatore Silletta, 49, Shot To Death – March 2012
• Giuseppe "Closure" Colapelle, 38, Shot To Death – March 2012
• Steven Laporte, 39, Shot To Death – March 2012
• Antonio (Tony Suzuki) Pietrantonio, 48, Shot and Wounded – December 2011
• Salvatore "Sal the Ironworker" Montagna, 40, Shot to Death – November 2011
• Lorenzo "Larry" Lopresti , 40, Shot To Death – October 2011
• Raynald Desjardins, 60, Shot At – September 2011
• Antonio Di Salvo, 44, Shot To Death – February 2011
• Nicolo Rizzuto, 86, Shot To Death – November 2010
• Ennio Bruni, 36, Shot To Death – September 2010
• Agostino [BadWord], 66, Shot To Death – June 2010
• Liborio Sciascia, 40, Shot To Death – June 2010
• Paolo Renda, 70, “Missing” – May 2010
• Ducarme Joseph, 43, Shot At In Suspected Dispute With Montreal Mafia– March 2010
• Peter Christopoulos, 27, (Bodyguard of Ducarme Joseph), Shot To Death – March 2010
• Nick Rizzuto Jr., 43, Shot To Death – December 2009
• Fredrico Del Peschio , 59, Shot To Death - August 2009
• Sam Fasulo, 37, Shot To Death - January 2009
• Mario (Skinny) Marabella, 40, “Missing” – December 2008
The name is forgettable, I hope the posts are not.
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Re: Joe Di Maulo killed?
[Re: Giordano]
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11/06/12 05:09 AM
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Say what you want but with all thats happened the papers say Di Maulo 50 years plus into the game was still walking the streets with no body guard despite all thats happened over the last few years. Thats a real mafioso. It's foolish if you ask me. Walking without a bodyguard in Montreal these days, especially if your an important member of the Mafia, is asking to be killed. When you make yourself such an easy target it's tempting for anybody to settle a score. Just look at the Nick Rizzuto Jr. hit. Even if he wasn't involved, his name popped up in the news more often than he would have liked.
"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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Re: Joe Di Maulo killed?
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11/06/12 05:14 AM
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So I realize what i'm posting isn't specifically the point of this thread, but I feel like it's relevant enough and is fairly interesting. I made it up myself and I don't believe I'm missing anyone.
Deaths in the Montreal Mafia War 2008 - Present
• Joe Di Maulo , 70, Shot to Death – November 2012
• Pierre-Paul Fortier, 27, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War – October 2012
• Frederick Murdock.... Excellent rundown! Thanks for this.  Add the murder attempt on Danny De Gregorio and it's complete.
"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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Re: Joe Di Maulo killed?
[Re: ForgettableName]
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11/06/12 06:37 AM
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So I realize what i'm posting isn't specifically the point of this thread, but I feel like it's relevant enough and is fairly interesting. I made it up myself and I don't believe I'm missing anyone.
Deaths in the Montreal Mafia War 2008 - Present
• Joe Di Maulo , 70, Shot to Death – November 2012
• Pierre-Paul Fortier, 27, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War – October 2012
• Frederick Murdock, 33, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War – October 2012
• Vincent Pietrantonio, 53, Shot and Wounded, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - October 2012
• Tommy Pietrantonio, 28, Shot and Wounded, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - October 2012
• Domenico Arcuri Sr. , 79, Died Suspiciously – October 2012
• Ben Zaid Moez Ben Ali, 34, Shot to Death, Possibly an Innocent Civilian – August 2012
• Riccardo Ruffolo, 34, Shot to Death – August 2012
• Chenier Dupuy, 37, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War – August 2012
• Lamartine Paul Severe, 42, Shot to Death, Possibly Unrelated to Montreal Mafia War - August 2012
• Walter Ricardo Gutierrez, 60, Shot to Death – July 2012
• Giuseppe "Joe" Renda, 53, “Missing” – May 2012
• Salvatore Silletta, 49, Shot To Death – March 2012
• Giuseppe "Closure" Colapelle, 38, Shot To Death – March 2012
• Steven Laporte, 39, Shot To Death – March 2012
• Antonio (Tony Suzuki) Pietrantonio, 48, Shot and Wounded – December 2011
• Salvatore "Sal the Ironworker" Montagna, 40, Shot to Death – November 2011
• Lorenzo "Larry" Lopresti , 40, Shot To Death – October 2011
• Raynald Desjardins, 60, Shot At – September 2011
• Antonio Di Salvo, 44, Shot To Death – February 2011
• Nicolo Rizzuto, 86, Shot To Death – November 2010
• Ennio Bruni, 36, Shot To Death – September 2010
• Agostino [BadWord], 66, Shot To Death – June 2010
• Liborio Sciascia, 40, Shot To Death – June 2010
• Paolo Renda, 70, “Missing” – May 2010
• Ducarme Joseph, 43, Shot At In Suspected Dispute With Montreal Mafia– March 2010
• Peter Christopoulos, 27, (Bodyguard of Ducarme Joseph), Shot To Death – March 2010
• Nick Rizzuto Jr., 43, Shot To Death – December 2009
• Fredrico Del Peschio , 59, Shot To Death - August 2009
• Sam Fasulo, 37, Shot To Death - January 2009
• Mario (Skinny) Marabella, 40, “Missing” – December 2008
What do you think the final body count is going to be? I reckon 40-45
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Re: Joe Di Maulo killed?
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Say what you want but with all thats happened the papers say Di Maulo 50 years plus into the game was still walking the streets with no body guard despite all thats happened over the last few years. Thats a real mafioso. It's foolish if you ask me. Walking without a bodyguard in Montreal these days, especially if your an important member of the Mafia, is asking to be killed. When you make yourself such an easy target it's tempting for anybody to settle a score. Just look at the Nick Rizzuto Jr. hit. Even if he wasn't involved, his name popped up in the news more often than he would have liked. i agree. not that a bodyguard would totally save your life ie; cun trera-sciascia. but, you might have a chance of surviving, at least. then again, a person like montagna went into a meeting alone without a lookout, leading to his ambush. you would think that he would have an entourage, of some sort, after being underboss of a NYC family. which leads me to believe, a plausible theory, about this mob hit. it may stem from NYC and retribution for the fallout between dimaulo-desjardins-gallo and montagna-arcuris. i think rizzuto, unless he truly is an invincible figure after being put away and his immediate family being decimated. i think it is too soon for him to make a move that sudden, with all eyes watching him. Don't forget,when his son and two lawyers came to pick him up at the airport. there was a NYC figure present, as well?? what was that all about?? batter up!!!
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Re: Joe Di Maulo killed?
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I don't follow Canada as closely as I should. I usually defer to posters like Sonny_Black (he's a walking encyclopedia on the topic  ). But I have to say, IF Rizzuto turns out to be behind this, and IF he ends up the last man standing, that guy is as old school and savvy and old soul Sicilian as God ever made. Because everyone---BUT EVERYONE---wrote the guy off. Even if you don't approve of the criminal life (and to be honest, you probably shouldn't), you have to respect the balls and the savvy of a guy like that. It's mind boggling.
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