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Re: Frank Calabrese Sr dead
[Re: Wilson]
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01/04/13 01:59 PM
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It's been a while since I read the book but I definitely don't remember it happening like that. He brought Jr. into the life, if I remember correctly, when he was just a teenager. According to Kurt he did not have much of a choice, if any. Keep in mind that at the trial he called from the bench to Kurt to testify that he was a good dad and Kurt's response was to get up and walk out of the courtroom. Jon DiFronzo called Mike Mags' dad "stupid" for brining him in. IMO mobsters who brings their kids in tend to be the worst of the kind. LOL. We all enjoy reading about the mob but goodness... the guy killed 15 people.
Google "Kurt Calabrese interview."
He talks about how he lived in terror of his POS father.
He's lucky his kids didn't kill him. Well in the beginning they chose to work for him. Once you make a promise to someone, you keep it. You don't run away and ask the feds to help you out of that life once you get scared.
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Re: Frank Calabrese Sr dead
[Re: NickyEyes1]
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01/04/13 06:00 PM
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Wilson
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Are they going to throw Frank a funeral? I have looked online and usually a wake is held within a few days of a persons death. I haven't read anything about that in any obituary. Most mobsters have funerals right?
This is a perfect example of a man who was a mobster because he earned money for the Chicago outfit and was willing to do the dirty work. Seems to me that no one cared about him as a person. From what I See they basically used him. Thats it.
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Re: Frank Calabrese Sr dead
[Re: Wilson]
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01/04/13 06:39 PM
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From what I've heard it will be super private and not publicized. Not sure what it's like these days but the Catholic church used to refuse to bury the gangsters... although most of them ultimately did wind up in a couple of Catholic cemeteries in the western suburbs, so who knows. That seems like a fair assessment of Sr.'s career. Guess it makes sense considering his boss was Angelo La Pietra, who was probably the most feared mobster since Giancana. I remember being shocked at how little Nick Calabrese was getting paid. Not sure what his lifetime "take" was, but I remember Marcello was giving him $4K a month in hopes he would keep quiet in prison--which he did for a while. $40K a year for knocking down 15-plus guys. The prosecuters during Secrets always maintained that if Sr. would have shared the wealth with Nick even a LITTLE more he would have never flipped. But he felt so taken advantage of that he ultimately sunk all of 'em. Are they going to throw Frank a funeral? I have looked online and usually a wake is held within a few days of a persons death. I haven't read anything about that in any obituary. Most mobsters have funerals right?
This is a perfect example of a man who was a mobster because he earned money for the Chicago outfit and was willing to do the dirty work. Seems to me that no one cared about him as a person. From what I See they basically used him. Thats it.
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Re: Frank Calabrese Sr dead
[Re: NickyEyes1]
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01/05/13 12:22 PM
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Wilson,
What you're failing to consider is that very often these guys create their own rats by mistreating their subordinates and refusing to share the wealth. Now I don't follow modern day Chicago all that closely. I'd rather make quality posts about areas that I'm familiar with (namely New York, New Jersey and South Florida). But this guy Calabrese certainly seems to fit the bill.
Guys like Gambino, Costello and Accardo knew that you had to let the troops eat. And that, while you commanded respect, you never abused your own people. Calabrese abused his own kids. He couldn't scrape a pimple off Tony Accardo's ass.
As far as wiseguys who push their kids into the life: I always bring up Craig Depalma. There ought to be a special section of hell reserved for Greg for what he did to that kid.
It's also worth noting that more often than not, the Genovese guys tend to push their kids away from the life (or at least away from being made). For the smarter guys, the American mob is a single generation means to an end. The end being the education and future of their children.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Frank Calabrese Sr dead
[Re: NickyEyes1]
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01/16/13 07:57 PM
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