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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1112570
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combing forces once again and creating a regulatory body known as The Union to enforce the will of Rizzuto and HA brass at the street level


This is still not being reported in Montreal and get a kick out of this quote, now he's getting his imagination involved yet again lol They've been paired up for years but all of a sudden they decided to name their partnership "The Union"? whistle

I still say he's full of shit and if this turns out to be true I'll give him his props. I have a strange feeling I won't be doing such though.

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This is still not being reported in Montreal and get a kick out of this quote, now he's getting his imagination involved yet again lol They've been paired up for years but all of a sudden they decided to name their partnership "The Union"? whistle

I still say he's full of shit and if this turns out to be true I'll give him his props. I have a strange feeling I won't be doing such though.


Just saw his video. The Union…. Well don’t know if its true.
Also he said that some middle eastern guy has alot of power.
In the comments section, some are saying the guy is a persian nicknamed happy. And he is the one who is running the show now in Quebec.
Don’t think its true, but we will see

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Revelations of Frédérick Silva Police ask to keep seized goods until autumn

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1112601
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has there been any proof that the rizzuto-sollecito clan was indeed backing the BFM? i know there has been arrests related to murder, drugs, kidnapping etc, but unless i missed it none have even remotely been connected to any mafia clan/cell let alone the rizzuto-sollecito clans.

this was something i had pondered as well but 2 years or so into this revolt against HA in quebec and nothing linking these 2 groups together.

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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
has there been any proof that the rizzuto-sollecito clan was indeed backing the BFM? i know there has been arrests related to murder, drugs, kidnapping etc, but unless i missed it none have even remotely been connected to any mafia clan/cell let alone the rizzuto-sollecito clans.

this was something i had pondered as well but 2 years or so into this revolt against HA in quebec and nothing linking these 2 groups together.


You are correct I haven't come across any information linking the 2 groups.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1112612
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There's nothing at all. Gangster Report is written by a schmuck who gets caught lying about one of his stories every other week. Why anyone believes what he writes is a mystery. There's a reason we have seen any of his reporting in anything from journal de Montréal lapresse the Gazette. It's because it's all made up except for the stuff he copies from their articles.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1113369
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seems like some heavy firepower by police to search for 'a firearm', must be part of ongoing investigation either alliance or otherwise. does show also what regard police hold for pizzi and his clan.

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Montreal man who played part in Mafia-related murders awaits parole decision By Paul Cherry Updated January 30, 2025 5:34 PM

A man who took part in two cold-blooded murders carried out in an apparent response to a failed attempt to take control of the Montreal Mafia more than a decade ago found himself having to explain a chilling text message he sent to his accomplices after the second victim was killed. Olivier Gay, 42, a man long tied to Reds-affilated street gang called Unit 44 in northern Montreal appeared before the Parole Board of Canada on Thursday. He is seeking day parole on the sentence he received for taking part in the murders of Gaetan Gosselin, a man who was killed in front of his home on Jan. 22, 2013, and Vincenzo Scuderi, a man who was killed nine days later.
In 2017, Gay pleaded guilty to being part of a conspiracy to kill both men. Five men in all pleaded guilty to conspiring to kill Gosselin, but Gay was the only one to admit he was also part of the conspiracy to kill Scuderi. He received the longest sentence of the five — 18 years. He had 11 years and 10 months left to serve when he was sentenced in 2017. Besides asking for day parole, Gay will soon reach the two-thirds mark of his sentence, which means he will automatically qualify for a statutory release. If he is turned down for day parole, the board will have to determine if surveillance conditions should be attached to his statutory release. At the end of his long hearing Thursday morning, Gay was informed the parole board will deliberate on the matter before making a decision in writing. The board can deliberate for a maximum of 15 days. As part of the evidence entered into the court record during his guilty plea, the court was informed that, after Scuderi was killed, Gay sent a text message to his accomplices in which he wrote: “Never two without three. Bring on the next one.” Gosselin was a longtime friend of Montreal Mob boss Raynald Desjardins, a man who, back in 2013, was a leading member of a group that tried to take control of the Montreal Mafia from the Rizzuto organization. Scuderi was a close associate of Giuseppe (Ponytail) De Vito, another leader who was part of the failed takeover. If both men who were murdered could be considered to be enemies of the Rizzutos, Gay’s message implied there could have been another hit planned. On Thursday, one of the parole board members who presided over Gay’s hearing asked him to explain what he meant by “never two without three.” Gay said the text messages he sent were mostly in Creole and that he used a lot of slang when he communicated with his friends. He said that when the messages were translated by interpreters, the context was often lost. “It was about something else. Drugs,” Gay said of the message. “I was having a good day (dealing drugs) that day. “I wasn’t charged (with the murders) because of that message.” When asked further questions about the timing of the message, Gay said it was just a coincidence it was sent minutes after Scuderi was killed. Gay also told the parole board he merely did surveillance before both homicides were carried out. “I didn’t ask more questions. I didn’t think of what might happen (as a consequence of his surveillance on the men who were ultimately killed),” he said. “My satisfaction was in making money.”
Gay said money was the motivation behind most of the decisions he made growing up in Rivière-des-Prairies. He recounted how he quit school at 15 and ended up working in a Loblaws while he watched as people he knew were “driving around in nice cars” and being paid for committing crime. “I came from R.D.P. Crime was everywhere and I was attracted to it,” Gay told the parole board. Other street gang members “were friends who grew up together. We went to the same schools. We went to the same churches. We made bad choices together. “Most of the people from my circle are dead or are now serving life sentences.” This story was originally published January 30, 2025, 12:29 PM.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1113614
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Corruption case that rocked Montreal city hall goes to trial, again
By Paul Cherry Updated February 03, 2025 2:52 PM|

Frank Zampino, 65, was granted permission to follow the trial by video conference for the first two weeks. He is recovering from a recent medical procedure. John Mahoney Montreal Gazette The second trial of men — including Frank Zampino, the former head of the City of Montreal’s executive committee — accused of co-ordinating a massive amount of collusion when it came to the awarding of water-meter contracts more than a decade ago began at the Montreal courthouse on Monday.

Read more at: https://www.montrealgazette.com/latest-news/article727774.html#storylink=cpy

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1113859
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Organized crime: record sum of more than $3,000,000 to hitman Frédérick Silva for helping police solve dozens of murders

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1113931
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odd that in the journal article that there is a repeated mention of sylvain boulanger and his 'help' in the operation sharq mass HA arrests of 2009. because of defense attorneys utterly abusing every loophole in the quebec justice system and a helpful jordan decision, almost all of those arrested, which at the time was near every full patch have since been released. released without most ever serving any of their sentence many of which were up for murder.

i say this only to point out that a cooperator of any rank cannot alone bring home the case for the crown.

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Organized crime: record sum of more than $3,000,000 to hitman Frédérick Silva for helping police solve dozens of murders


Frederick Silva gets 3 million to help law enforcers solve crimes on dead victims perpetrated by dead murderers. Yet no arrests on the leaders responsible that executed/ conspired to perform these crimes.
So far the tax payers are the losers for the lack of results.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1114115
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Originally Posted by antimafia
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I havent read the whole threaad just thought i take a shortcut and ask who's behind this Montreal war? I know the Rizzutos is taking a hit but whos on the other side?


I just noticed that this thread recently went over the 100,000-views mark.

The mob war in Montreal is now over. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.


The thread now has more than 2,000,000 views.

The mob war in Montreal is now over. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.

As you were.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #1114118
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Originally Posted by Ciment
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Organized crime: record sum of more than $3,000,000 to hitman Frédérick Silva for helping police solve dozens of murders


Frederick Silva gets 3 million to help law enforcers solve crimes on dead victims perpetrated by dead murders. Yet no arrests on the leaders responsible that executed/ conspired to perform these crimes.
So far the tax payers are the losers for the lack of results.

it's also frustrating for us because it's been years since he flipped yet very little new info has come out. We need someone to write a book already. grin

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Originally Posted by antimafia
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Originally Posted by doggystyle
I havent read the whole threaad just thought i take a shortcut and ask who's behind this Montreal war? I know the Rizzutos is taking a hit but whos on the other side?


I just noticed that this thread recently went over the 100,000-views mark.

The mob war in Montreal is now over. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.


The thread now has more than 2,000,000 views.

The mob war in Montreal is now over. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.

As you were.


Congratulations ANTIMAFIA !!!

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Originally Posted by Ciment
Frederick Silva gets 3 million to help law enforcers solve crimes on dead victims perpetrated by dead murderers. Yet no arrests on the leaders responsible that executed/ conspired to perform these crimes.
So far the tax payers are the losers for the lack of results.


No shit man, if I'm a Canadian citizen I'm pissed at this. He made $3 mill and didn't put a dent in anything in Montreal!


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I havent read the whole threaad just thought i take a shortcut and ask who's behind this Montreal war? I know the Rizzutos is taking a hit but whos on the other side?


I just noticed that this thread recently went over the 100,000-views mark.

The mob war in Montreal is now over. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.


The thread now has more than 2,000,000 views.

The mob war in Montreal is now over. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.

As you were.


Congrats anti! You have kept this thread alive the whole time and deserve all the credit.

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^^^^
The relevant criminals who keep getting arrested and causing shenanigans give all of us lots of reasons to post.

Credit goes to ALL the posters, even the naysayers: Okay, this is going to be my last post in this thread, which I think should be locked…. lol

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Originally Posted by antimafia
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The relevant criminals who keep getting arrested and causing shenanigans give all of us lots of reasons to post.

Credit goes to ALL the posters, even the naysayers: Okay, this is going to be my last post in this thread, which I think should be locked…. lol


It's going to be locked when we say so !
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Cross-posting, as Ciment first posted about this in the Drug Busts thread.

Ontario man named boss of huge cross-border drug smuggling ring slipped out of Canada and into U.S. court
https://nationalpost.com/news/ontario-trucker-cocaine-2

When Operation Dead Hand was announced in Los Angeles on Jan. 30, 2024, Sidhu and some of the other Canadians swept up in the drama were overshadowed by big allegations and better-known names.

In the United States, there were wanted fugitives linked to Mexican drug cartels and distracting mountains of cocaine surrounding the podium at the press conference; in Canada, there was a man with a notorious last name: Roberto Scoppa, brother of two leaders in a faction of the Montreal Mafia who were killed in 2019 during a mob war.

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With no RICO statute, and lax sentencing laws, the next hit in Canada is always right around the corner. But this thread is really the last great thread on this board. Everything else are just comments on Mob history now.

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Why is Canada the only place where different mobs from Italy seem to be always competing with each other? In Italy and everywhere else they are they cooperate. It’s not since prior to the creation of the American mob that they fought each other, why is Canada so special? They should just work together and fuck everyone else over lol

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i think if the rizzuto-sollecito had a choice they wouldnt have been at war with anyone. from the 2012 release of vito rizzuto through his 2013 death and up until the nov 2015 magot arrests a good part of the montreal mafia was allied and to some extent working together. there certainly was murders committed by the r-s faction in this time period but some were revenge for past murders against the rizzutos and their allies. after nov 2015 it was the scoppa brothers who decided to make a move against the r-s faction when they were weakened by arrests not the r-s faction attacking anyone. followed by of course a period of revenge (2017-2019). coming out of the 2019 murders of andrea and salvatore scoppa the r-s faction of the mtl mafia did indeed seek to allie with other OC groups to ctrl criminal rackets in the city and later was the HA mtl chapter, led by martin robert that is assumed to have attacked the r-s faction and its control of the book.

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That makes sense, war equals less money. It seemed like the Scoppas had a problem with Greg Woolley, seeing as they’re from Italy, that would make lots of sense. Putting a black first, instead of their own, would never fly, let alone be possible in Italy. Now, the Scoppas and Picasso are dead wtf!

Greg Woolley seemed to be in Ontario often as well, who would his network be in both Toronto and Hamilton? Could he of been involved with the killings in both those places? They seem to put a black first as well, it’s so strange to me, but I’m white.

I heard that Martin Robert tried to fight Greg Woolley, weeks before he was murdered? He had a white wife? And a kid with her?

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That makes sense, war equals less money. It seemed like the Scoppas had a problem with Greg Woolley, seeing as they’re from Italy, that would make lots of sense. Putting a black first, instead of their own, would never fly, let alone be possible in Italy. Now, the Scoppas and Picasso are dead wtf!

It's possible they had a problem with Woolley but not because he was black. Judging from Andrew's book, their(or his) problem was mainly with Steve Sauce(Stefano Sollecito), and Woolley was brought in by Steve as the Rizzuto's muscle, and Andrew may have been jealous, Andrew turned on the Rizzutos after Vito died because he felt they didn't appreciate the help he gave them while Vito was still inside, and he thought Steve Sauce was manipulating Vito, clipping people he had a problem while pretending he was "cleaning house" for Vito.

On the other side, Steve Sauce and Woolley thought Sal Scoppa was a snitch and was stealing from them and wanted to clip him, but Leonardo said no. But word was leaked back to Sal and that's when things kicked off between them.

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That makes sense, war equals less money. It seemed like the Scoppas had a problem with Greg Woolley, seeing as they’re from Italy, that would make lots of sense. Putting a black first, instead of their own, would never fly, let alone be possible in Italy. Now, the Scoppas and Picasso are dead wtf!

It's possible they had a problem with Woolley but not because he was black. Judging from Andrew's book, their(or his) problem was mainly with Steve Sauce(Stefano Sollecito), and Woolley was brought in by Steve as the Rizzuto's muscle, and Andrew may have been jealous, Andrew turned on the Rizzutos after Vito died because he felt they didn't appreciate the help he gave them while Vito was still inside, and he thought Steve Sauce was manipulating Vito, clipping people he had a problem while pretending he was "cleaning house" for Vito.

On the other side, Steve Sauce and Woolley thought Sal Scoppa was a snitch and was stealing from them and wanted to clip him, but Leonardo said no. But word was leaked back to Sal and that's when things kicked off between them.




I see, it’s so strange that they would support a black over one of their own, that’s probably at the real core of why the mob has fallen in Canada. At least with the bikers in Quebec and the few like them in Ontario, they are hard core white, so they have that in common. Listening to people talk about Woolley and any other street gang member as if they aren’t just a hood gangster that has aged, which is a miracle in their reality, makes me laugh. Big business requires big brains, street gangs automatically imply they are lacking that. Maybe when Canada becomes the 51st State, Canada can get back to the way it was when, the white guys, the mob and bikers were one gang and the country was great!

I know that Woolley was in Ontario regularly in both TO and Hamilton, any ideas who his contacts were? Harley Guindon was one, he’s in TO. What about the bikers and street gangs in the Hammer? I think he knew or dated a Gravelle in Hamilton.

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Yeah but the bikers took Woolley in way before the Rizuttos did despite being "hardcore white", so what's the difference?

Again, the Rizzutos needed muscle to fight against their enemies so they took Wolley in. For whatever reason, they felt the Scoppa brothers weren't trust worthy, and later they were enemies. So I wouldn't say "they supported Woolley over one of their own". They took Woolley and Silva and whoever else they needed to survive. If there were more of "their own" on their side maybe they wouldn't have needed to.

So IMO the Rizzutos taking in non-Italians isn't the reason the mob has fallen in Canada, it's the consequence.

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Casual racism in the morning nice. Not sure where you're getting your info but the Hells Angels are not hardcore whites and haven't been for years. Your post alone implies you're lacking these big brains you speak of.

Frederick Silva is Italian.

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Casual racism in the morning nice. Not sure where you're getting your info but the Hells Angels are not hardcore whites and haven't been for years. Your post alone implies you're lacking these big brains you speak of.

Frederick Silva is Italian.



Who cares if he is Italian lol, Italians don’t count as while WTF! Try telling people in Italy that a black is more important than one of them and see what happens. You live in Montreal or in Canada? If so, then you’d be the expert on skin relations? Street gangs are full of genius, that would logically follow. Having 80 kids with 70 women, pimping their own kids and hand to hand drug sales is what all top OC business people are doing!

If what you say is true, then white people need to band together, before this gets any worse! It was strange enough when Tiger Woods was at Augusta, now they are trying to take over hockey and the streets of Canada. What a joke!


Watch this, you might learn a thing about actually Italians, not Italos lol

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