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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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07/15/01 05:02 PM
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Another major difference is when Moe Green is killed. In the movie it is the same time as the murders of the heads of the 5 families, while in the book it was before that, maybe an entire year, I can't remember exactly.
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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Michael speaks directly to Apollonia's father in the novel but in the movie its translated for him.
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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In the novel there is a main part about Johnny Fontane and his wifes and problems etc. Not in the film. There is also a part in the novel were Bonasera is in court which is not in the film. Also there is a part were Nazorine realizes that he has to go to Don Corleone to make sure Enzo can stay in America.
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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* In the novel, Fredo was big, but stupid; in the movie, he is small and stupid. * In the movie, the heads of the 5 families are killed, with Rocco and Clemenza heavily involved; in the book, only Barzini is killed, with other killings happening as a result of the death. (The novel makes more sense) * In the book, there is a bigger age difference between Sonny and Michael. They seem to be relatively close together in the movie, but the book implies they were fairly far apart in age. * In the movie, a knife is stuck through Luca Brasi's hand to prevent him from moving while being garrotted, in the novel, he is just held. * In the novel, Appolonia was pregnant, I don't believe that is mentioned in the movie. * In GF2, the Vito back story ends after the killing of the Sicilian Don. In the novel, there is a lot of detail starting from the formation of Genco oil importing to the beginning of the 5-families war. * In the novel, there is a scene at Genco's death bed that is not in the movie. * The novel gives a lot of background info about Luca Brasi and Al Neri that is omitted from the movie. * In the novel, Kay leaves Michael fairly early (right after the Carlo hit, if I remember correctly), but comes back later. Kay stays with Michael for at least the years between GF1 and GF2. * In the movie, Michael's "Don't take sides against the family" line is to Fredo alone (with Tom). In the novel, Moe Green is in the room at the time (making the movie more powerful because of the foreshadowing of the betrayal in GF2). * In the novel, someone cloned dinosaur DNA and created a theme park and . . . (whoops, wrong book) I'm sure there's more, but I can't remember anymore off the top of my head.
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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07/22/01 11:30 PM
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In the movies, Lucy had a child by Sonny, Vincent. In the book, Lucy could not get pregnant. The book also goes into much more detail of her life and using her as a key character in Vegas. In the movies, she is just one of Sonny's toys with a "bastard".
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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07/22/01 11:41 PM
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Connie quickly forgives Michael for Carlo's murder and marries 'a fine young fellow. . . from a reliable Italian family"
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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07/25/01 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by Sonny: In the novel, Vito utters "..Life is (so) beautiful..." just before he dies. (What a statement to make before death. I think that's one of the best lines in the entire novel. How lucky he was to have lived a life in which he was the one to "pull the strings", and to die in such a peaceful manner. I remember reading (just after the movie was released) that the writers were "pressured" to delete that quote from the movie because it was feared it would make the character of Don Vito "too human".
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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"Leave the gun, take the canolis" isn't in the novel
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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08/11/01 05:33 PM
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* Sollazzo needs $2 million in the novel, and $1 million in the movie.
* In the novel, Sonny first suspects that Clemenza sold out the Don along with Paulie. In the film, there appears to be no question of Clemenza's loyalty.
* In the film, Michael just magically returns from Sicily. I like the explanation in the book of the death row guy admitting to the Bronx killings. Hence, clearing Michael's name.
* In the film, Kay goes to Vegas after the baptism and Michael was supposed to go to. In the novel, Michael and Kay never planned to go to Vegas.
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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Don Corleone dies with an orange peel in his mouth in the movie, while picking tomatoes in the book. Yet, this was a Brando ab-lib and it was one of the only improvement changes from book to movie. Personally, I enjoyed the book more. Just me maybe.
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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It is just plain "Tessio" in the book. He is never referred to by the first name "Sal"
The book states that Vito changed his last name from Andolini to Corleone as one of the few sentimentalities in his life. GF II, of course, has an immigration official mistakenly and arbritrarily give Vito 'heart of lion'
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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I think the biggest difference between the fanucci scene in GF2 and The novel is of Vito's suspicions. For in the novel Young Vito realizes that fanucci is more bark than bite. Where as in the movie it was trimmed down so where Vito's suspicions were omitted.
Any comments on this?
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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In the movie, Michael's "Don't take sides against the family" line is to Fredo alone (with Tom). In the novel, Moe Green is in the room at the time (making the movie more powerful because of the foreshadowing of the betrayal in GF2).
I could've sworn Moe Green had left the room as well in the movie.
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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08/17/01 12:47 PM
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Moe Greene definitely had left the room. He went to go get his tongue kicked out. Plus he needed a new plaid sports jacket.
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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To Don's Advisor :
As for the Corleones never suspecting Clemenza in the movie as compared to the book, you are right in reffering to the original Godfather I movie. However, in one of the special features, there is a scene, after the Don is shot, when Michael arrives at the Don's home, and Clemenza is sitting outside the Don's office while Sonny and Tessio are inside the office talking about who set up the Don. After Michael insists on sitting with them in this meeting, Sonny jokingly says to him something like " OK College boy, if your so smart, who set up the old man, Clemenza or Paulie? and Mike replies that it was Paulie, that Clemenza would never set up the old man. Sonny replies that he is right, and that it was Paulie because they had the Phones taped and found out that it was Paulie. I think that this was an important scene, and never should have been cut out from the original movie!
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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08/18/01 11:06 AM
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Many of the differences that have been referred to are things that could only be explained in a book and not in a film and there is little that can be done to add these parts to the film.
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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08/19/01 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by pgunn: Here's a big difference:
Sonny was planning the execution of the heads of the Five Families. He also knows that he was handicapped by the mellowing of Tessio and the declining passion of Clemenza, but he couldn't do anything about that, nor could he replace Tom. In the movie, where everyone is gathered in the Don's office(?) after the assassination attempt, you can hear Clemenza and Tessio making up that list if you listen closely. Tattaglia's name is almost definitely mentioned. Their talking gets almost drowned out by Sonny, but it is there. So I think the planned hit on the heads of the 5 Families is in the movie as well.
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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Difference:
Genco Olive Oil Company and the early days of GF2 are in Hells Kitchen, NYC (Around West 34th-39th Street and 9th/10th avenue) in the Book, but in Lower East Side, NYC in the film (around West 2nd-6th St). (Puzo grew up in Hells Kitchen).
Roberto the landlord returns to Young Vito's home in the book, and to Genco Company in the film.
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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The film is nice look at and I like the acting of course, but I find the book far superior in content and details, it's just the type of novel you cant put down once you pick it up.
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Re: Differences between the movies and the book
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Originally posted by gusmahler:
* In the movie, a knife is stuck through Luca Brasi's hand to prevent him from moving while being garrotted, in the novel, he is just held.
?? Not in the GF1 I saw! And one of the most memorable scenes too. Sollazzo stabs Brasi's hand while Bruno Tattaglia holds the other one -then the garrot.
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