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Re: N'dragheta vs. the West African gangs
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03/02/13 05:40 AM
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Never understood why they called it by the name ''West African gangs'' as they are in about 90% of the time Nigerians coming from two of the country's tribes: the Igbo and the Yoruba. Nigerians for a long time have indeed acted as pushers, smugglers,...or even as extra muscle on the payroll of the Italian criminal organizations. Independent gangs of Nigerian origin have lately been sprouting up in Italy, Britain,...all over Europe. Britain is open territory and doesn't have a central 'mafia' controlling things. OC there is rather controlled by literally hundreds of smaller groups, indigenous as well as foreign. So in this environment independent Nigerian cells can operate freely. In Italy however, the Nigerian criminal 'independence' has led to violent confrontations with Italian groups -mostly the Camorra. A battle in which the Nigerians till this day never won a game. In the European drugs trade the Italians, and especially the Ndrangheta, definitely has the upper hand. That's not to say you should underestimate the Nigerians. They're the first type of Sub-Saharan African OC that can be called a major player in the criminal underworld. A long time ago they weren't very violent but nowadays they can be extremely brutal, especially when it comes to the drug trade. Even read stories about them literally drinking the blood of their rivals.
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Re: N'dragheta vs. the West African gangs
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West Africans Wtf !?, as in Nigerians or some shit? You just made me smile. This reminded me of Bad Boys 2...."You got me up in here with some Haitians...with guns!"
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Re: N'dragheta vs. the West African gangs
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03/03/13 12:17 PM
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that's what i said nigerians are mostly mules for bigger oc groups and only recently they started to run some little shipments they don't control any european cities, i don't think there is a so big nigerian community over there there are just small gangs in that and this european cities at most and let away italy where nigerians are mafia or camorra puppets, i don't think they are so strong even in some other european country
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Re: N'dragheta vs. the West African gangs
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West Africans Wtf !?, as in Nigerians or some shit? yah tony I was in George Bush Intl airport right beside me was flight Lagos. There sat a nigerian gangster purple suit gold watch pinky ring you know the type. Dis guys operate openly and wit inpunity
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Re: N'dragheta vs. the West African gangs
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03/04/13 04:39 AM
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Nigerian gangs are significant smugglers of cocaine into Europe from West Africa. Yes their are some groups that are mules for the Latin cartels but at the routes to and from West Africa is under their influence.In a Switzerland article it stated that West African gangs "dominate" the cocaine trade. Nigerian population in Europe is large in the U.K, Italy, and a few other countries. And how are they puppets for the Italian crime syndicates? Their is a major difference between working WITH and FOR a group.
Look, Nigerian OC in the United Kingdom is one thing, given that their is no real British Mafia (any longer) that can put them down and, whatever's left of them, are hugely outnumbered by the numbers of Nigerians.
That's not the case for Italian-based Nigerians. They have to work for Italian criminal groups given the fact that they don't have the power, influence, numbers that Italians have.
Sure, they might be free to do something on the side, extorting their own community, get involved in other small-mid size stuff but, as I've mentioned before, once their booty hits a certain level they'll be reminded that their rent is due.
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Re: N'dragheta vs. the West African gangs
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03/04/13 10:06 AM
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Look, Nigerian OC in the United Kingdom is one thing, given that their is no real British Mafia (any longer) that can put them down and, whatever's left of them, are hugely outnumbered by the numbers of Nigerians.
Depends on were they operate. London and the Midlands have become so multicultural that there isn't any central control anymore. The indigenous British crime groups there are not of any significant power anymore. Turks & Kurds, Albanians, Jamaicans, Nigerians, Irish,...can operate freely and without impunity. The Northwest of England is a different beast however. If a foreign group tries to operate in Merseyside they will have to deal with indigenous organized crime cartels that are just as violent, ruthless and powerful as they are. The few reports on foreign groups setting up shop over there can be deemed off as bullshit. England's Northwest is roughly comparable with Italy's south, Albania's north ( including Kosovo), Ireland's northeast, Corsica, the Caucasus,...in terms of the bandit culture of organized crime that still prevails in the poorer population of these places. You can't trash a culture like that.
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Re: N'dragheta vs. the West African gangs
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03/04/13 06:25 PM
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Nigerian gangs are significant smugglers of cocaine into Europe from West Africa. Yes their are some groups that are mules for the Latin cartels but at the routes to and from West Africa is under their influence.In a Switzerland article it stated that West African gangs "dominate" the cocaine trade. Nigerian population in Europe is large in the U.K, Italy, and a few other countries. And how are they puppets for the Italian crime syndicates? Their is a major difference between working WITH and FOR a group. i live in europe and i never heard they dominate cocaine, nigerians have not enough money to run drug at highest level they are mostly mules for bigger groups and yes, in italy the nigerian gangs are little and weak, puppets of italian oc i don't know honestly if in other european countries they are more powerful, maybe in france they are something more but they don't control any european city and probably even any european single neighbourhood so they are nothing compared to ndrangheta in europe they are very strong only in africa
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Re: N'dragheta vs. the West African gangs
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Depends on were they operate. London and the Midlands have become so multicultural that there isn't any central control anymore. The indigenous British crime groups there are not of any significant power anymore. Turks & Kurds, Albanians, Jamaicans, Nigerians, Irish,...can operate freely and without impunity. The Northwest of England is a different beast however. If a foreign group tries to operate in Merseyside they will have to deal with indigenous organized crime cartels that are just as violent, ruthless and powerful as they are. The few reports on foreign groups setting up shop over there can be deemed off as bullshit. England's Northwest is roughly comparable with Italy's south, Albania's north ( including Kosovo), Ireland's northeast, Corsica, the Caucasus,...in terms of the bandit culture of organized crime that still prevails in the poorer population of these places. You can't trash a culture like that.
My knowledge was based on London alone and that's what I was referring to. I should have specified that. Thanks for the info anyway, really interesting.
My point was that Milan/Rome/Etc... ain't London. Therefore they (if they reach a certain power) cannot operate freely and without impunity.
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