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Re: Unions under 5 family control
[Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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These are the unions, etc. the NY families have been involved with in cases since 2000.
Genovese Family Carpenters Union Local 11, 20, 45, 157, 608, 926, 964 New York District Council of Carpenters Association of Wall-Ceiling & Carpentry Industries Amalgamated Carpenters and Joiners Union Operative Plasterers & Cement Masons Union Local 530, 780 Operative Plasterers & Cement Workers Union Local 780 International Union of Journeyman & Allied Trades Local 124, 713 International Union of Operating Engineers Locals 14, 15 United Union of Roofers, Water Proofers & Allied Workers Local 8 Bricklayers & Allied Craftworkers Union Local 7 International Union of Elevator Constructors Local 1 Elecrical Workers Union Local 3 Teamsters Local 701, 813, 1181 ILA Local 824, 1235, 1478, 1588, 1804-1, 1922, 1922-1, 2062 Metropolitan Marine Maintenance Contractors Association United Food & Commerical Workers Union Local 348, 1262 Bakery, Confectionary, and Tobacco Workers Union Local 102 Building Service Workers Union Local 32 B/J Novelty and Production Workers Union Local 148 Laborers Local 734 HEREU Local 69 New York Central Labor Council
Gambino Family Laborers Local 79, 325, 731, 1018, 1153 International Union of Elevator Constructors Local 1 International Union of Operating Engineers Local 14, 825 Plumbers, Pipefitters, and Steamfitters Local 638 Teamsters Union Local 282, 854 ILA Local 1, 1814 United Plant & Production Workers Union Local 175 Building Service Workers Union Local 32 B/J United Food & Commercial Workers Union Local 305 New York Sanitation Department
Lucchese Family Laborers Local 20, 29, 66, 79 Carpenters Local 608 Bricklayers Local 1 International Union of Operating Engineers Local 825 Teamsters Local 806, 282 New York Department of Buildings United Food & Commercial Workers Union Local 348 Communication Workers Local 14170
Colombo Family International Union of Operating Engineers Locals 14, 15, 137 Laborers Local 6A Teamsters Local 282 Production Workers Union Local 400
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Re: Unions under 5 family control
[Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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Thanks Ivy as always. Do you know anything about how many of these Unions are still under mob sway? I made that list as such because all we can really do is look at recent history. Unless somebody is a fed doing the investigating, a union guy who's having to deal with the mob, or a mobster himself, there's no way to really say what's going on at present. That said, some unions are easier to guess about then others. Only a fool would say the Genovese family doesn't still have sway over some of the ILA locals on the New Jersey waterfront or some locals in the Carpenters Union. The Amalgamated Carpenters & Joiners Union is certainly under mob control, as it was basically created by the Genovese family as a reaction to federal attacks against their control of the Carpenters Union. Certain Operating Engineers Union locals are also likely to still have mob influence, as they have been among the most mob-infested in recent years. It's also a good bet some Laborers locals are still influenced by a few of the families. After the January 2011 indictment against the Colombo's control of Laborers Local 6A, an internal FBI memo the following June claimed the Gambino and Lucchese families met to discuss a possible takeover of the local.
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Re: Unions under 5 family control
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Re: Unions under 5 family control
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BONNANO were not allowed, because of drug dealing..!they were gansters and said f*&^k off we do what we want..and they did
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Re: Unions under 5 family control
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Genovese Family Carpenters Union Local 11, 20, 45, 157, 608, 926, 964 New York District Council of Carpenters Association of Wall-Ceiling & Carpentry Industries Amalgamated Carpenters and Joiners Union Operative Plasterers & Cement Masons Union Local 530, 780 Operative Plasterers & Cement Workers Union Local 780 International Union of Journeyman & Allied Trades Local 124, 713 International Union of Operating Engineers Locals 14, 15 United Union of Roofers, Water Proofers & Allied Workers Local 8 Bricklayers & Allied Craftworkers Union Local 7 International Union of Elevator Constructors Local 1 Elecrical Workers Union Local 3 Teamsters Local 701, 813, 1181 ILA Local 824, 1235, 1478, 1588, 1804-1, 1922, 1922-1, 2062 Metropolitan Marine Maintenance Contractors Association United Food & Commerical Workers Union Local 348, 1262 Bakery, Confectionary, and Tobacco Workers Union Local 102 Building Service Workers Union Local 32 B/J Novelty and Production Workers Union Local 148 Laborers Local 734 HEREU Local 69 New York Central Labor Council
Wow...and we still wonder why they are #1. Can't imagine the cash these unions put into their pockets.
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Re: Unions under 5 family control
[Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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Who stole from like a police union pension fund? Hahahaha thats the only ways these guys can fight back That was the Colombos, including Frank Persico, back in the big June 2001 case that charged members and associates of all the NY families. They were using kickbacks to skim from te Detective’s Endowment Association, as well as Production Workers Local 400 and Operating Engineers Local 137. Amalgamated Carpenters & Joiners Union Laborers local 6A I think was taken over by the lucchese and gambino families btw As I said above, the FBI memo said a representative from the Gambino family met with a Lucchese captain and some soldiers to discuss taking it over. I guess time will tell if it happened or not. Yeah where are the Bonannos? They have to have at least a couple union's Most of the Bonanno family's union involvement didn't continue past the 1960's, which coincidentally enough, was when Joe Bonanno was kicked out and the family had a lot of internal problems. From then on, the family always seemed to be on the outside as far as the unions, including ones involving multiple families, were concerned. The only exceptions were Teamsters Local 814 (the Movers Union) , which they lost control of after an indictment came down in the 1980's, and the rackets they had at the NY Post, which included the union that represented the newspaper delivery drivers. In recent years, the Bonannos have had some involvement with a few construction companies here and there but really nothing to do with the unions themselves.
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Re: Unions under 5 family control
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Massino have any unions? What the hell made him so powerful? No, he didn't. In fact, he even made the remark that "We (the Bonannos) really have nothing to do with the unions or construction." Ironically, the Bonanno family's lack of involvement in the unions protected them. It spared them being caught up in a number of labor racketeering cases that involved the other families working together. And, of course, the Bonanno also benefited from the FBI not considering them a big priority. In the early 1990's, the Bonanno and Colombo squads were combined and the Bonannos had about a decade of relatively little FBI pressure. This enabled them to regroup and rebuild. At one point, he was considered the top boss but that was only because he was the only official boss left on the street. That's why he chaired that Commission meeting. Not because he had more clout than Chin, Gotti, Amuso, or Persico.
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Re: Unions under 5 family control
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They are still there, but union membership is more aware of any influence, and unlike older times, more willing to come forward and complain. The influence is much less than 1970-1990 time period. That's a fair statement. The '70s thru the early '90s were the "Golden Age" of union corruption. They're still there, and always will be to a degree, but the federal mandates have made it much tougher.
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Re: Unions under 5 family control
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That's a fair statement. The '70s thru the early '90s were the "Golden Age" of union corruption. They're still there, and always will be to a degree, but the federal mandates have made it much tougher. You don't think the 1950's and 1960's would fit into that "Golden Age?" Of course, Ivy. It's just that Jace specifically mentioned the '70s thru the '90s, so that's how I replied  . But now that you mention it, it does bring the Teamsters to mind (you know it always does with me). Many people believe (myself included) that the Teamsters were even more corrupt under Fitzimmons than they were under Hoffa. And Fitz did fit that time frame (the late '60s thru the early '80s). And for the record, Jackie Presser (who served as President for most of the '80s) was no Saint, either. That guy was some piece of fucking work, believe me when I tell you  .
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Re: Unions under 5 family control
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But now that you mention it, it does bring the Teamsters to mind (you know it always does with me). Many people believe (myself included) that the Teamsters were even more corrupt under Fitzimmons than they were under Hoffa. And Fitz did fit that time frame (the late '60s thru the early '80s). Oh, absolutely. From what I've read, Fitzimmons knew his place and was the classic "yes man." I always got the impression that Hoffa was harder to control and had an uneasy partnership with the mob; and only because he had to. It's no mystery why they didn't want Hoffa taking over again. And for the record, Jackie Presser (who served as President for most of the '80s) was no Saint, either. That guy was some piece of fucking work, believe me when I tell you  . Regarding Presser, there's a very good book from his former assistant called Devil's Pact: Inside the World of the Teamsters Union.
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