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Re: Giovanni Ligammari
[Re: Mick2010]
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04/14/13 09:17 PM
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tommykarate
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Same thing happened down in Florida with trafficante family
One thing about wiseguys...the hustle never ends.-tony soprano
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Re: Giovanni Ligammari
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04/16/13 09:20 AM
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ScottD
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In May 1999, Ligammari and his son were found hanging next to each other in Ligammaris basement. Officially declared a double suicide, it obviously seemed quite suspicious. Father and son killing themeselves together? seems quite strange. I was just wondering if there were any other theories out there on this one. Any reason why someone may have wanted him dead. Or was it really just a very strange double suicide? Six degrees... Trafficante Jr is listed on a PIzza Connection chart with a link to the LIgamarris (accoridng to FBI). Vincent LoScalzo attends the wedding of Pietro (the son) and is observed by Florida LEOs meeting with various Sicilian mobsters. Raffa is Miami Trafficante boss, tight with LoScalzo and knows the Ligamarris. Raffa inducted John Mamone in to the Trafficantes in the mid 1990s. Mamone, a former Genovese associate, was indicted in 1994 with a former Bayonne cop George Weingartner and Geroge's son-in-law Vincent Cifarelli. Weingartner killed himself (via CO poisoning) in July 1998. Cifarelli hung himself in March 1999. The Ligamarris hung themselves in May 1999. Raffa hung himself in October 2000.
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Re: Giovanni Ligammari
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04/16/13 10:47 AM
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In May 1999, Ligammari and his son were found hanging next to each other in Ligammaris basement. Officially declared a double suicide, it obviously seemed quite suspicious. Father and son killing themeselves together? seems quite strange. I was just wondering if there were any other theories out there on this one. Any reason why someone may have wanted him dead. Or was it really just a very strange double suicide? Six degrees... Trafficante Jr is listed on a PIzza Connection chart with a link to the LIgamarris (accoridng to FBI). Vincent LoScalzo attends the wedding of Pietro (the son) and is observed by Florida LEOs meeting with various Sicilian mobsters. Raffa is Miami Trafficante boss, tight with LoScalzo and knows the Ligamarris. Raffa inducted John Mamone in to the Trafficantes in the mid 1990s. Mamone, a former Genovese associate, was indicted in 1994 with a former Bayonne cop George Weingartner and Geroge's son-in-law Vincent Cifarelli. Weingartner killed himself (via CO poisoning) in July 1998. Cifarelli hung himself in March 1999. The Ligamarris hung themselves in May 1999. Raffa hung himself in October 2000. spooky...
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Re: Giovanni Ligammari
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04/16/13 10:54 AM
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To the law enforcement, everything that can be ruled out as suicide isn't worthy of being investigated. I mean, even if somebody is found stabbed in the back, it means he has fallen on a knife planted on the ground (well, I may be exaggerating, but just a little). I remember about the Italian mafia banker Michele Sindona who managed to say "they poisoned me" before dying, but this was ruled out as suicide nevertheless.
Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:
1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."
2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Re: Giovanni Ligammari
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09/08/13 09:32 AM
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tommykarate
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Maybe loscalzo n his sicilian people.get a few off a plane tell em what u want
One thing about wiseguys...the hustle never ends.-tony soprano
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