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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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Frank Costello,Carlos Marcello and Angelo Bruno.Choose one... Joe Massino, Russel Bufalino, Carlos Marcello, amd no other then the boss of bosses "Fat tony"
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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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Tony Accardo in America and probably Calogero Vizzini in Italy. Joe Batters retired didn't he though ? I thought he went down to Florida or Arizona to chill
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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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Frank Costello,Carlos Marcello and Angelo Bruno.Choose one... Joe Massino, Russel Bufalino, Carlos Marcello, amd no other then the boss of bosses "Fat tony" Ye Fat Tony invented LCN and even elektricity.He was also the nephew of Genghis Khan 
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Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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Joe Massino? I think he lost that title the day he flipped. Was thinking the same thing. Id have to say Costello or Luciano. Just because they helped formed the modern american mafia and both died out of the can and spend limited time in the can.
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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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Joe Massino? I think he lost that title the day he flipped. His response to a similar comment while in the PC Unit at a Fed. Lockup. " I got Stripes, I got several."
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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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1. Carlo Gambino 2. Anthony Accardo 3. Tommy Lucchese 4. Joe Zerilli 5. Santo Trafficante 6. Joe Profaci
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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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1. Carlo Gambino 2. Anthony Accardo 3. Tommy Lucchese 4. Joe Zerilli 5. Santo Trafficante 6. Joe Profaci
The main factors are stability, longevity, and dying in your own bed - not prison.
"Three can keep a secret..if two are dead." Calogero Minacore
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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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Joe Massino? I think he lost that title the day he flipped. Was thinking the same thing. Id have to say Costello or Luciano. Just because they helped formed the modern american mafia and both died out of the can and spend limited time in the can. I'd agree with that.
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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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Many ppl think that Accardo was the real deal,but my opinion is that Joey B. couldnt lift a finger without Riccas permission.Many say that Riccas reign was from 1943 to 1947...wrong,he was the boss till his death in 1972 i think....You see after Riccas death Accardo,again,wasnt the real boss of the Chi outfit,cuz where you gonna put Joey Aiuppa than?!Cuz after Riccas death,many of his underlings such as Giancana or Mad Sam went "cold".Accardo was always more of a acting boss or consigliere for the ruling panel...but hands down,the dude was pure hardcore
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Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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Accardo always said Ricca was in charge. But Ricca and Accardo made most of the the big decisions. Ricca had to be careful because he was forbidden to associate with known criminals (RIGHT !). But he did have to use caution and as a result pushed Accardo to "announce" decisions to outfit members. Ricca and Accardo established the position of "Boss of The Outfit." They (Accardo&Ricca) remained in the background with final say on important matters. By doing this they were insulated (to some degree) from possible criminal charges and prosecution.
From my readings it didn't seem to matter who the day-to-day boss was because Accardo assumed a role similar to Ricca. Accardo never sought the position of "Boss" of the Outfit, even though he took charge when Ricca went to prison. But there were times when he was the interim boss. He tried several times to retire but Ricca told him "The Outfit needs you." So Accardo acted more as an adviser or consigliere than the boss. But his power was enormous and he made most major decisions, or at least had the final say. He used other members such as Gus Alex, Murray Humphreys, et. al. In the decision-making process. But it was common knowledge by all govt. anti-crime agencies that Tony Accardo was at the top echelon of The Chicago Outfit. The exact title Accardo assumed depends on different agencies, newspapers, etc. Some referred to him as Chairman or Boss of Bosses, or simply as consigliere.
There will always be controversy about Accardo and his status within The Outfit. My suggestion would be to read all the information available on the Internet including FBI files, newspaper articles, books by John Binder, Gus Russo, Richard Lindberg and Bill Roemer (I know, Romer kinda gets carried away with Roemer). Also read some stories by former FBI agents Wayne Johnson, James Wagner and Lee Flosi. There are many more but these guys are well-informed about Accardo.
Finally, don't take my word or anybody's word about Accardo; just do some research and I believe you will develop a picture of his role and status within The Chicago Outfit."
Sorry for the long post.
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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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Although Charlie Luciano comes close because he founded the Commission, I go with Frank Costello. His contribution was to make the Mafia a political powerhouse. Previously, the Irish dominated urban political machines and rented their services, often grudgingly, to Mafia families. Costello stepped in and, through money and sophistication, turned the tables. He was smart enough to maintain Irish ward heelers and officeholders because he knew the public at that time distrusted Italian names in politics. But they were subordinate to him. He made judges and district leaders whenever he needed to, and even elected two mayors of NYC. That's how he earned his nickname, "The Prime Minister of the Underworld."
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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nobody has mentioned scarfo Now that's funny, lol... Gambino in my book-
"In onore della Famiglia la Famiglia e' aperta"
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Re: Who was the greatest mob boss of all time ?
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Many ppl think that Accardo was the real deal,but my opinion is that Joey B. couldnt lift a finger without Riccas permission.Many say that Riccas reign was from 1943 to 1947...wrong,he was the boss till his death in 1972 i think....You see after Riccas death Accardo,again,wasnt the real boss of the Chi outfit,cuz where you gonna put Joey Aiuppa than?!Cuz after Riccas death,many of his underlings such as Giancana or Mad Sam went "cold".Accardo was always more of a acting boss or consigliere for the ruling panel...but hands down,the dude was pure hardcore You are so correct. An oversight on my part. I should have typed it this way: Accardo/Ricca
"Three can keep a secret..if two are dead." Calogero Minacore
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