Colombo captain... Had tony sirico under him. His brother is also made. Is he still alive/active? Thanks

Didn't some turncoats and Sirico himself stated that he was put up for membership in that borgata? This was after he came back home from jail for that shooting.

Here's a random story on Green Eyes you reminded me of:

"Paciello told the feds that after Wild Bill mysteriously disappeared in May 1999, Persico had taken over his lieutenant's loan-sharking operation. Paciello also implicated both men in a 1997 plot to murder former Colombo soldier Jerry "Green Eyes" Clemenza.

A drunken Jerry Green Eyes had called Wild Bill an "asshole," and Paciello had communicated this to Persico, who instructed him to track down the bigmouth. With a hit man in tow, Paciello located Jerry Green Eyes as he was leaving a New Jersey nightclub, but the pair eventually lost him in traffic.

In December 2000, Paciello pleaded guilty to helping locate Jerry Green Eyes for the Mob bosses. "I knew these individuals wanted to physically harm and possibly murder Jerry Green Eyes," Paciello confessed to the judge. "I agreed to contact these individuals if I learned of the whereabouts of Jerry Green Eyes for the purpose of maintaining my affiliation with the Colombo family and I did contact them."

In American Desperado, Jon Roberts' book it says Tony Sirico worked under Fat Tony Rabbito

Thats bullshit. no disrespect at you, just the author.

The last case he was involved in was the March 2004 bust of the Colombo brothers crew. As far as I know he's still alive and would be in his late 50's, I think.

I always thought back in the 1970's Sirico was with the crew of James "Jimmy Brown" Clemenza who was a capo in the Colombo family. This Jimmy Clemenza was Green Eyes father , right? I think that particular James "Jimmy Brown" Clemenza died back in the 1990's.

Sirico is what 72 years old now? i doubt back in the 1970's he was under any guy that is now in his 50's.

Or am i totally spacing out and having a brain spasm and getting all these Clememza's confused?

Gerard "Jerry/Green Eyes" Clemenza is brothers with James "Jimmy Brown" Clemenza

Well then who is this Jimmy "Jimmy Brown" Clemenza? Former capo in the Colombo family. A different Clemenza family?

http://books.google.com/books?id=nsqpP4c25DEC&pg=PA134

Jimmy Brown was still alive in the late 90s.

"Jerry also has his own HBO connection, a "Sopranos" one, at that. In 1999, he and his brother, James "Jimmy Brown" Clemenza, were at a Little Italy Christmas party attended by several of the HBO show's cast members, including Tony "Paulie Walnuts" Sirico and Vincent Pastore, whose Big Pussy character then was alive and kicking, not swimming with the fishes."

http://www.nysun.com/new-york/late-guilty-plea-for-green-eyes/46468/

I know that Dapper, but who is the Jimmy Brown Clemenza that was a capo back in the 70's in the Colombo's and who i read Sirico was around. This Jimmy Brown had a a son Jerry so i think it might be Green Eyes father. No? If not i give up.

This Jimmy Brown died in the 1990's.

Didnt Vinny Pastore get bitch slapped by Joe Butch once at some little italy event thing?

Sorry I thought you said James "Jimmy Brown" instead of Jimmy "Jimmy Brown" LOL. Apparently a James "Jimmy Brown" was around during the depression

http://books.google.com/books?id=RiDwMlj...ldi&f=false

To make matters even more confusing, I found this while reading a bit about Philly Lucky.

"Philip is a blood relative of reputed Colombo crime family mobster Suvio Grimaldi who later was said to become a contract killer for the Chicago Outfit. He is also related to Colombo crime family capo brothers Giacomo Clemenza and fellow capo Gerard Clemenza, as well as James "Jimmy Brown" Clemenza through marriage. Rumors of his being a cousin of disputed Colombo crime family ex-mobster and actor Tony Sirico who would become famous for his role portraying the fictional mobster Paulie Walnuts on the hit television series The Sopranos, are innacurate. Philip is father-in-law to Peter Clemenza, after his daughter Corinne married Peter in what is know as one of the most imfamous mob weddings in New York history. "

Shit gets confusing. lol Thanks Dapper.

Tell me about it. Hope that was somewhat helpful.lol

jimmy and jerry are brothers

It is confusing. This is how I understand it to be: James "Jimmy Brown" Clemenza, the Colombo captain and the big shot with The Blouse and Waistmakers Union Local 25 and mentioned in "Boss of bosses", died in Florida in 1993. Gerry "Green eyes" seems to be his son. Gerry was the one indicted in 2004 and sentenced to house confinement when found guilty.

The Clemenzas go way back with the Colombo/Profaci Family. There was a Fred, a Charles and a John Clemenza all listed as Profaci members/associates. But how exactly all these Clemenzas were related to eachother, I don´t know.

do we have a picture of this guy?

there was a picture of the son who has to be in his late 60tys now. he was a made guy. allie boy wanted to whack him in the 90tys i think that club king in miami said he was to be in on it or something. allie wanted him dead think he rebelled alighned himself with the colombo sons who were with orena

theres a picture of him in this article/blog https://thecolombomafia.com/thomas-gioeli(pmac posted the site in another thread)