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Re: Anybody know why they did Tommy Eboli?
[Re: Dellacroce]
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Youd think that gambino probly got the ok from someone like lombardo before taking out eboli, but who knows. Another theory is that gambino wanted funzi to take over as acting boss because carlo could have more control over him and used the drug deal loan to set him up as a reason to whack him. With Lombardo as the real boss, what say would Gambino have in the next acting boss of the Genovese? I doubt the Genovese would allow any other family to influence their internal affairs. The story as told makes it seem like the Genovese were weaklings being pushed around and manipulated by the Gambinos. With all the other major mob hits, we have a good idea of who and why. This one is still a mystery. Was it the Gambinos or Genovese who did Eboli and why?
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Re: Anybody know why they did Tommy Eboli?
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Tommy Eboli was only ever a front boss for a ruling panel and mainly insulation for Gerry Catena(only at the time, I'm well aware Catena stepped away in the 70s). In my opinion the $4mil loan was a kiss of death. Gambino either having no faith Eboli could lead the Genovese in a street based heroin trade, or having set him up with the police who almost instantly brought down the racket and all the Genovese involved it gave Gambino undeniable reason to kill Eboli and have him replaced by a more favorable individual in Funzi Tieri, and more like a more favorable ruling panel than Ryan-Catena-Miranda-Lombarado, with Tieri-Salerno-Gigante. I'm not saying Gambino aligned himself with the Genovese by taking Tommy Ryan out of the way, it just seems to me that he chose the lesser or two evils and set up more favorable leadership to work alongside. Once again, why did the Genovese need Gambino's help to get rid of a front boss when Lombardo, Catena, and Miranda were already the administration? Losing $4 million is alot of money to get rid of a front boss when they could have just made him disappear and say he was a snitch or stealing money.
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Re: Anybody know why they did Tommy Eboli?
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Where did that story about Gambino lending Eboli 4 million first originate? Personally i have my doubts about it. 4 mil in the early 1970s was a lot of money and i just have trouble believing Gambino would lend anyone that amount of cash, even Eboli. What kind of drug deal is worth $4 million anyways? That's over $16 million in 2012 dollars. No drug deal could be worth that amount. What do you think the mob was pushing dime bags? Did you not here of the pizza connection where they were pushing about 100 million dollars of smack a year?
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Re: Anybody know why they did Tommy Eboli?
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Where did that story about Gambino lending Eboli 4 million first originate? Personally i have my doubts about it. 4 mil in the early 1970s was a lot of money and i just have trouble believing Gambino would lend anyone that amount of cash, even Eboli. What kind of drug deal is worth $4 million anyways? That's over $16 million in 2012 dollars. No drug deal could be worth that amount. What do you think the mob was pushing dime bags? Did you not here of the pizza connection where they were pushing about 100 million dollars of smack a year? They weren't buying $16 million worth of heroin at a time.
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Re: Anybody know why they did Tommy Eboli?
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It says they bough 100 kilos of heroin.
100 kilos x $10,500/kilo = $1,055,000
That's not even close to the $4,000,000 Eboli is alleged to have borrowed. After they bought and distributed that much heroin, they could buy more with the profits. What is the other $2,945,000 for?
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Re: Anybody know why they did Tommy Eboli?
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07/22/13 08:38 AM
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Tommy Eboli had a brother who belonged to the Genovese Family as either a soldier or captain. I don't remember. His brother's name was Pat or maybe Pasquale Eboli.
His son was Louie The Mooch Eboli who was a made guy in the Outfit. His mother was born in Melrose park. I think his parents got divorced which was unheard of back then, especially among the Mafia. Louie the Mooch remained in Chicago. He was friends with Johnny Mathis, the singer. Johnny even gave the Mooch a gold watch. Mooch belonged to Joey Lombardo (Grand Ave) and was in charge of a Franchise that involved machines in some of the West Suburbs like Melrose Park, Franklin Park etc.
When his father got killed in 1972, the Mooch was really upset and started talking too much about it. Word somehow got back to New York and a couple men from the Genovese family came to Chicago to discuss what happened with Auippa/ Accardo. Cerone was in jail at the time for a short while. Chicago was always allied with the Genovese's. They always voted together on the Commission years ago.
I never did understand why the Genovese's would allow the Gambino's to kill their acting Boss and do nothing about it. I find that hard to believe. Somehow, the Genovese's must have agreed that Eboli had to go. Whatever happened, Chicago stayed out of it and promised Mooch would behave. That was the end of it.
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Re: Anybody know why they did Tommy Eboli?
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07/22/13 08:59 AM
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I never did understand why the Genovese's would allow the Gambino's to kill their acting Boss and do nothing about it. I find that hard to believe.
The Gambinos had no part in whacking Eboli, it was house cleaning Westside way. Eboli got whacked because he was an abusive motherfucker who was looking in everyones pockets. He got weak when Genovese died. One must be crazy to think the gambinos would mess this way with the West side, it ain't the colombos we're talking about.
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Re: Anybody know why they did Tommy Eboli?
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07/22/13 04:17 PM
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Cbronx, I SAID I found it hard to believe. You don't read the entire posting. You see one thing and take it out of context and then make a response without reading or understanding the WHOLE POSTING. You don't need to do the tough guy act with me, it won't work very well. You did the same thing on the Chicago thread. Thanks.
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