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vicelords #729439
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I've been reading up on the vicelords and I was surprised to see how organized they are, thier engaged in sophisticated activities. Is corey gilmore still calling shots for them?


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NewsLast UpdatedGang leaders explains "anatomy" of the gangAn accused Memphis gang leader is now facing 15 years in prison for shooting another Vice Lord.  Ronald Terry changed his plea halfway through closing arguments today.      But before Terry changed his plea he took the witness stand and gave jurors a detailed look at the Vice Lords organization. "That was August the 10th, 1998," he says, remembering the day he was "blessed-in" to the Vice Lords gang.   He says he moved up fast in the organization. According to Terry, the Vice Lords operate like a government, complete with officers.  Terry became a Five Star Universal Elite and was given South Memphis as his territory. "They form a committee from each branch, that's what makes up the nation, not no one person," he says.But Memphis police say Ronald "porky" "big pork" Terry is the one person at the top of the Vice Lords in Memphis.Testifying in his attempted murder trial, Terry outlined the organization, showing-off  a chart of the Conservative branch of the gang.  Terry told the jury he was in the UVL or Unknown Vice Lords. He claims the gang takes its symbolism from the back of a  dollar bill.  "The pyramid on the dollar bill has 21 bricks in it.  That's how many branches is within the organization." And the eye on the dollar "is the eye of Allah watching over his people," he says.Terry says many of the gangs concepts are rooted in the Islamic faith.  Gang members even memorize verses from the Koran as part of their initiation. And then there's the star.  "That's the symbol of the Vice Lord Nation," he says."It's not what the nation can do for you, it's what you can do for the nation."Vice Lords even have bi-laws...made by the committee.  "You have literature, you have laws and principles that you abide by."  And they meet every Friday.         Terry says he gave up gang life in 2004.  Terry says by showing off how the gang is organized, he's putting his life, and his family member's lives in danger. During the trial, a Memphis police officer testified that gangs in Memphis are not as well organized as Terry presented the Vice Lords to be. Share:  / /


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Re: vicelords [Re: thebigfella] #729586
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Who is Corey Gilmore ? Where are your source for him? In the VLs organization there's no single leader but leader over thier branches .


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My good buddy Antonio in Rockford, IL had an Uncle who was an Undertaker Vice Lord and was a Chief Rank Universal 2 Star. Whatever the hell that means but according to Antonio he was in charge of his own group like your saying Black Family. The only supreme leader I've ever heard of was Willie Lloyd and I think he was CVL, but ended up getting clipped by his own People supposedly. I'm thinking of another guy who was like really young around the same time who was trying to take control from Willie Lloyd when he was locked. Forgot his name though.

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willie lloyd was running things for decades. Arent the conservative vicelords more of an activist group than gang now?

also i think lloyd ran the unknown vicelords not cvl.

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Willie Lloyd was the founder of the UVLs. Your friend's uncle rank is similar to that of a underboss's boss per say. VLs have always been organized hustlers and large in the Chicago drug trade. They earn multimillions yearly and here's an example of the TVLs connection: http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArtic...;section=theuae


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Re: vicelords [Re: Scorsese] #729601
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Conservatives are still a criminal enterprise.


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@logomassini: theres a popular belief that tyrone williams and his brother had something to do with willie getting shot, remember willie was in a civil war with tyrones faction because he would'nt pay willie tribute I believe, willie even kidnaped his brother for ransom which sparked the civil war


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Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Willie Lloyd was the founder of the UVLs. Your friend's uncle rank is similar to that of a underboss's boss per say. VLs have always been organized hustlers and large in the Chicago drug trade. They earn multimillions yearly and here's an example of the TVLs connection: http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArtic...;section=theuae


Shit. they kept that iranian connect up for 20 years too bad for them 9/11 happened and changed things. Ive read reports of their being a lot of nigerian heroin suppliers in chicago now as well.

This may sound like a stupid question but why are they called the travelling vice lords, did they move around alot of the country or are they just called that for the sake of it?

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@blackfamily:my mistake, gilmore xalled the shots for ciscero insane vicelords in the 30th paragraph but all in all still an interesting read, here is my source


http://chicagostreetgangs.webs.com/vicelords.html


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Here is the layout of gangs locations in the city of chicago


Unique street gang culture thrives in the “Windy City”

Harry C. AlfordBy Harry C. AlfordAs I have been looking at the phenomenon of street gangs in urban areas of our nation, there is none quite as unique as Chicago.The "Windy City" has a myriad of large size gangs. The Folk Nation and the People Nation are two rival alliances. Amongst the Folk Nation are the Black Disciples, Gangster Disciples, Imperial Gangsters, Insane Deuces, La Raza, Latin Disciples, Latin Dragons, Latin Eagles, Orchestra Albany, Party People, Spanish Cobras, Satan Disciples and Two Six.The People Nation includes the Black P-Stones, Conservative Vice Lords, Four Corner Hustlers, Gaylords, Latin Brothers, Latin Counts, Latin Kings, Latin Pachucos, Mafia Insane Vice Lords, Travelling Vice Lords and the Undertaker Vice Lords. The Black Gangsters, Black Souls, Lynchmen Sercaun Gangsters and Molotov Mafia are large gangs with no alliance.The above gangs are just the larger ones. It is mind boggling how this city is structured in the gangster gang life (criminality). Most have claims to certain neighborhoods.In North Chicago the Insane Deuces run the North Center area while the Black P-Stones are prevalent in the Rogers Park area. In South Chicago we have the Conservative Vice Lords at Grand Crossing while the proper Southside has the Black P-Stones and Latin Dragons.The Black P-Stones also rule South Shore and Woodlawn. Far South Chicago has the Black P-Stones in just about every neighborhood. Also roaming Far South are Gangster Disciples, Black Disciples, Molotov Mafia, Latin Counts and Lynchmen Secaun Gangsters.Now let’s go to the Westside where there are Four Corner Hustlers, Mafia Insane Vice Lords, Travelling Vice Lords, Black Souls, Conservative Vice Lords, Latin Kings, Satan Disciples, Black Gangsters, Latin Kings and Two Six. Northwest has the Gaylords, Latin Brothers, Latin Pachucos, Imperial Gangsters and Orchestra Albany. Finally, there is Southwest with La Raza, Black P-Stones, Black Disciples, Latin Kings and Conservative Vice Lords.One of the oldest gangs in Chicago is the Gaylords, AKA Almighty Gaylords. They are a white group that started in the early 1950’s. They have five divisions structured by age. During the 1960’s they grew in impressive numbers with "sets" all over Chicago.Their name comes from the Normandy, France people (descendants of Vikings) who were called "Gaillards".Perhaps the most notorious gang is the Almighty Black P. Stone Nation, commonly known as Black P. Stone. It was originally called the Blackstone Rangers. The founders, Jeff Fort and Eugene Hairston started the group while they were being detained in a juvenile facility.Youth was their focus until the 1960’s when they evolved into a very violent and feared entity. They renamed themselves the Black P. Stone Nation and became efficient in drug trafficking. This gang could be very sly. They convinced the Nixon Administration to award them a grant from the US Department of Commerce for $927,000.President Nixon touted it as his implementation of capitalism into our blighted urban areas. When it was found out that the gang bought weapons and ammunition with much of the money, Jeff Fort went off to prison. Eugene Hairston was already sent up on drug charges. Fort ran the operations of the gang from prison. He got out in the early 1980’s. His ambition remained. He was later arrested after meeting with representatives of Libyan dictator Muammar al-Gaddafi to discuss plans for domestic terrorism. He was then sentenced to 80 years. Shortly after that he caught another rap for ordering a hit on a rival gang member which added 75 more years to his time. He still has influence over this gang.One of the largest Black street gangs in Chicago is the Gangster Disciples. It started as a merger in the 1960’s between David Barksdale of the Black Disciples and Larry Hoover of the Supreme Gangsters. Their colors are black and blue. It is common for members to wear athletic gear representing the Georgetown Hoyas or Duke Blue Devils. They have 30,000 members in Chicago proper and another 20,000 elsewhere in the nation.The second largest gang in Chicago is the Almighty Vice Lord Nation, AKA Conservative Vice Lords. They have over 35,000 members and are one of the founding members of the People Nation Alliance.They could be cunning also. In 1970, they applied for a $275,000 grant from the Rockefeller Foundation. The grant was approved! It took ten years for the foundation to figure it out and seek prosecution for the sham. Unlike most gangs who concentrate on drug trafficking, robbery, extortion, etc. this gang has expanded into mortgage fraud, credit card fraud, and money laundering.This is a "taste" of Chicago gang life.Harry C. Alford is the co-founder, President and CEO of the National Black Chamber of Commerce.5 Stars - Excellent4 Stars - Good3 Stars - Average2 Stars - Fair1 Stars - Poor 5 / 5 (1 Votes)Copyright 2006-2012 The Hudson Valley Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.              Let Your Voice Be Heard ... Fill Out the Reader Response Form BelowYour name:Your email:Article Title:Comment Text:*Posts do not appear immediatelydigg itMyWebGoogleSlashdotdel.icio.usTechnorati 


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They were originally an independent club in the 60s known as the Travelers then join the vice lords nation. Why the name back then, don't know. But they do travel, a chapter in Memphis, Baltimore, Jackson, and even Albuquerque ( sorry if misspel).


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I or someone posted that article in the past.


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Prosecutor: Teen killed in money dispute between gang factions Posted July 18, 2013, 3:31 p.m. by Sun-Times Media Wire | 4 Comments

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A teen was allegedly ordered to kill another gang member because of a financial dispute between two gang factions, prosecutors said.

Prosecutors said Dyvell Mallet, 16, walked up to a group in the 600 block of North Lawndale on July 8 with a gun, raised a gun and fired multiple times, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Jamie Santini said.

One of the bullets struck 15-year-old Ed Cooper in the chest, and he collapsed after attempting to run to a vacant lot, Santini said. Witnesses said Mallet ran from the scene with the murder weapon, authorities said.

After his arrest on Tuesday, Mallet allegedly admitted his role in the murder to police, telling detectives he is a member of the Conservative Vice Lords street gang and that he received orders from a high-ranking member of his gang to shoot and kill a member of a different faction of the gang, Santini said.

The shooting was over a money dispute between the factions, the Chicago Sun-Times is reporting.

Mallet is on probation for possession of a controlled substance. He also was charged with heroin possession last year.


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Jim allen must be pissed, he's trying to tell the world thier not a gang and this little knucklehead says cvl told him to do it, I always believed organized gangsshould have an age limit


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