Did they ever figure out who whacked Jimmy the Gent and why? He was supposed to be promoted to underboss and ended up shot to death in his car with a fish in his lap.

Nobody knows nothing huh?

I was told he died of a heart attack, so sad.

he died of lead poisoning

John gotti

Gotti did it. It's been said that at Rotondo's funeral, John Gotti met with John Riggi and Riggi walked out pale as a ghost. He said that the DeCavalcantes now answered to the Gambinos. Pretty obvious what happened.

Rotundo was a very powerful mobster. He was also based out of Brooklyn so we can only speculate what else the Gambinos had to gain.

sammy g. never knew, i think gotti had zero to do with it.. with all the informants in the gotti crew.nothing ever came out..for big secrets look to chin...he was a master . look what they did in philly

He was a New Jersey 'family' guy operating and living in Brooklyn. He should have stayed in Peterstown, lol. I thought I read either he was getting too powerful, and/or making NYC guys. Supposedly, he had a pretty profitable and powerful crew. Want to say that the pump and dump dude doing time now (Philip Abramo) was under him. IIRC. His son flipped and testified against made guys. He is mentioned in Michael Scars DiLeonardo's testimony, which can be found online. I think the only Brooklyn faction DeCav left on the streets is Danny Annuziata.

That was the theory after the hit, but if Gotti was behind it, then Gravano would have mentioned it when he flipped. As far as I know, all the hits ordered by Gotti were relayed to the capos through Gravano or he was present when it was discussed.

Wasnt he under indictment with a dentist and a few other made guys for a loan sharking racket that was being fronted by a quasi legit lending company ? one rumor was he vouched for some of the guys who flipped in that scam and made guys went to jail. I want to say michael franzese was one of the mobsters along with anthony capo and a guy named jesse hyman. I think hyman flipped.

heres my guess on why he got killed. he was a big shot on the docks in Brooklyn long controlled by the gambinos. the Genovese take him out traying to weaking the power base of the gambinos. gotti who had nothing to do with it gets pissed at the john riggi maybe cause he did or did not give the westside the permission to clip guy. gotti says now all 40 of you guys report to me. at the time gotti was trying to get more power in new jersey. the westside had taken over the philly family, at the time bobby manna and all the jersey guys got caught on tape plotting to kill gotti and gene. what better way of making a power play for jersey than taken over there family. maybe that's why gotti wanted to kill corky so bad cause he was like a Genovese guy. but in the end Sammy the bull gave up all the murders of gotti and rotondo never came up I don't even think his kid knows the truth to this day.

great theory..best i've heard yet..chin.. look at the four other families major guys flipped massino included..nobody has info..zero..hmmm..back to chin

That is a good theory pmac. I'm still leaning towards Gotti having him killed, if only because the easiest answer is most often correct. Whatever happened we can all agree no self respecting mafia boss would do such a counterproductive thing as kill off the one person who gave them power in New York, the mafia's Mecca. It would be like Frank Costello killing off Willie Moretti or Al Capone killing off Paul Ricca. New York was definitely the culprit.

You think Gotti did him and Gravano forgot about the hit when he flipped but he remembered all the other hits and crimes going back to his days as a Ramper? Okay

Pmac definitley has a good theory, if you look at it besides the Genovese, you had top guys from every family, from that period flip , Gravano, Casso, Vitale, don't know about Colombos but they don't matter lol, what im saying is you think one of those people would of at least mentioned it.

If you'll go off of what little facts we have, then yes I do. Rotondo held sway on the Brooklyn Waterfront and was making guys from that area. Why would the Genovese care then, unless they were trying to set up Gotti, you say? They could have been. But it's only speculation. Anthony Rotondo, a direct source agrees with me. Ill agree to disagree with you. I don't think the Genovese are sloppy enough to directly let the entire DeCavalcante Family fall in to Gotti's lap. I believe it was his power grab.

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he introduced a guy (jesse hyman) into a scam that had many made guys participating then hyman ratted them out. why is that so unbelievable ?

You saying gotti did it is "only speculation" as well. How would his son know for sure ask yourself.

Of course his son wouldn't know for sure. What his son did know was that after the wake, the DeCavalcantes answered to Gotti and I really just have a hard time believing someone as smart as Chin would kill Rotondo and have the end result help the Gambinos. I think Chin was smarter than that. You're right my theory is only speculation. I'm not trying to pass it off as fact, I'm just saying the clues to me point towards Gotti and not the Genovese. Simple as that. The rest of you can fuck off, Aliens, jesus.

im just guessing. asking questions. vinny ocean would have put this on john riggi or anthony capo(when they flipped 2000) I know ocean was a Brooklyn guy maybe capo. so I guess im ruling riggi/decavs out of the equation. the fred/s.i. guy was killed before or after rotondo hit. maybe gotti did do the hit, but gravano was the Brooklyn guy he never put this hit on gotti but every other one. I always read that docks were split in 2. westside had new jersey and florida gambinos bk/si. the decavs always had a big Brooklyn crew goin back to sam th plum. corky,whitey,db$$$ who got took over by big paul and a lot others. sam2222 your probably right could you just elaborate on the scam this jesse guy did. who was the underboss for the decavs at the time the gay guy who was close to gotti. I don't believe the whole gotti made riggi afraid at the funeral thats just rotondo's son trying to make riggi look like a pussy from the stand, whne he would never make his bones himself. bosses have to respect each other in person novmatter how small a family, espeacially in front of made guys.seems like they were good friends. could use them in a war against chin goes back to why gotti wanted morris levys good friend corky dead. maybe he step on some loansharks territory or numbers spot. colombos have the biggest presence there. what was his positon on the docks?

no way it was gotti.

if you ask anthony rotundo today..i would say he feels differently about gotti doing his father

Perhaps John Riggi did the hit, and didn't clear it with Gotti beforehand, and as punishment he made the Decavalcantes report to him as punishment for it. Hence is why nobody knows nothing. Either that or it was aliens.

If Riggi ordered the hit, why would Palermo have to know about it unless the hit was assigned to him or his crew? At the time, Palermo was only a young capo at most.

I just can't buy that Gotti was behind it and Gravano forgot about the hit. Killing a powerful capo of another family and basically taking over that family is a pretty big move. That would have been their second biggest hit after Big Paul. There is no mention of the hit in his testimony or book.

Vinny was just a solider at the time, Riggi gets pissed because of him brining that rat in, and clips him, makes sense.

alright got a new guess sam2x you pointed it out think you know more but ill guess. rontondo was indicted in 1984 with a bunch of famous guys and a smart loanshark empire. lenny demirra carlo v and Anthony Napoli of the gambinos the prince Michael fransese benny aloi and2 or 3 other big guys o frank distephano. this case never made headlines Julie sweept it under a rug. anyway 15 guys get indicted for loansharking a million out of the dipolmate hotel in manhatten but the gangsters used legit people like rabbi's teaches garmit guy and a dentist dr. jesse hyman. the legit guys put out word to legit guys looking for loans the families made bank and when it went to trial in 1985 all the gangsters walked and the 8 legit guys went down. dr jesse hyman flipped gave up the dentistry kick back program he worked out for all the members of the union brookln docks guys and the mob. big money, buffalo crime family sent him to work for rotondo and riggi. so it goes back to riggi taken out his underboss rotondo.i never heard of this loanshark case were fransese even walked he never talks about it. that was a big win for the mafia against Julie. google dr jesse hyman pops up. riggi took him out sneaky so he couldn't get caught in the dentist/union kickbacks.

its not so fresh in my mind but I believe franzese was the one who speculated that rotundo was killed for that. i have heard him talk about the case before.On A documentary maybe ? He is the only person with mob credentials say that is why he got it. Who said Gotti or the genoveses killed him or is that a guess ? Not being a smart ass just wondering where you guys heard that ?

The dentist. Rotondo was a great man.

vr705 were the shooter from the jersey family or was it one of the nycs. any reason why the son thought it was gotti but Sammy the bull never said it was?