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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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04/05/03 07:37 PM
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second to last choice and last choice I loved the movie, so how could I not love the book? I have read other Mario Puzo's and I believe they are quite good.
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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04/10/03 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by MaryCas: Why did you guys read it then? Because I don't have foresight in cases such as this! And when I said "appalling" I meant appallingly written--the actual story and, at the time, the originality of the plot etc and masterful. The movie would have been impossible without the inspiration of the book. I couldn't agree more, PP! How can you say the book was "terrible" but THEN say it wasn't because it was the basis for the film? Very Strange. Firstly, since I am the only poster so far in this thread who actually commented on TGF novel being the basis for the film, I assume you are referring to me with your "Very Strange" comment--so he goes my explanation!: I never said the book was terrible--Anton said that, but let's not direct the "attention" (for want of a better word) onto somebody else. The closest I ever got to saying it was terrible was saying it was "badly written" (note the italicised word for emphasis--there is a difference between a bad book and a badly written book!  ) So, I said it was badly written because I think it is (my personal opinion). In no way do I think the novel is "terrible," as I for one like many others could not put it down after reading the first page, and finished it within a week! I love the book and would read it again, but it is in no way a fine piece of literature. But if I wanted to read and discuss fine literature, I would've posted a thread on Shakespeare, right!? mick
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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04/21/03 06:24 PM
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Micheal Corleone
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I thought that The Godfather was a great book, as long as it stayed on the main story, i.e. the Corleone Family. When it went in to the little side stories about Jules Segal, Lucy Mancini, and Nino, it became just an average piece of literature. I think that the reason I most liked the novel is because it provided so much extra information about the characters and events portrayed in the movie. On the other hand, I thought the dialogue in the book was not on par with the dialogue in the movie. On the question of Mario Puzo, I said he was an average writer. I think that The Godfather was his only great book, and his other writings make him, IMO, just an average author.
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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04/22/03 12:13 AM
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Classic Work of Art. Unbeatable in every sence. Quite possibly the best book ever written.
And you liar, teller of tall tales: you trample all the Lord's commandments underfoot, you murder, steal, commit adultery, and afterward break into tears, beat your breast, take down your guitar and turn sin into a song. Shrewd devil, you know very well that God pardons singers no matter what they do, because he can simply die for a song.
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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04/26/03 03:17 PM
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Everything is subjective in these cases. I enjoyed the novel because of its' ability to expound further on the characters and situations. It is to be used as a companion to the film. Puzo himself said in the Godfather Papers that he did not want to write this book, but he was broke and the publishing company that was advancing him substantial amounts of cash wanted him to write a 'breakout' novel. The story is not truly fiction, it is based on the families and events of that era, and yes that does include Frank Sinatra.
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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05/29/03 05:53 PM
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It is a great novel and great story. But not because of Puzo's mediocre writing abilities. From a literary perspective, Puzo is a midget compared with say a James Joyce. But then again Puzo was seeking to write, and hit upon, a work that would sell plenty of books. The result was a great feat: a classic that became part of the popular culture because of the story, not the writing.
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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05/31/03 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by Researcher: Why does everyone hate it so much? I don't recall anybody saying they hated it. I think, compared to other literature I've read, it is not on a standard as other authors. Nobody hates it. Mick
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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06/18/03 02:53 PM
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CrazedHobo
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wow... I'm surpised howmany people thought the godfather book was bad... I loved it (although I have read better, but not on the mafia, and not by much).... neih... Mabye it was Sonny's penis that scared you all away  lol (it did scare me too)
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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06/18/03 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by Double-J: Puzo imho is not at the level of say Tom Clancy True 
Il pollo e fresco! The chicken is fresh!
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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06/18/03 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by CrazedHobo: Originally posted by Double-J: [b]Puzo imho is not at the level of say Tom Clancy True [/b]Crazed Hobo, welcome to the clan, m'man!  Are you a Clancy/Jack Ryan fan too? Do a seacr h in general discussion about "Tom Clancy" and read my poll about the guy. Mick
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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06/18/03 07:52 PM
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That I am!  So far I've read : (in this order  ) Rainbow Six, The Sum of all Fears, Without Remorse, Executive Orders, and just finished Cardinal of the Kremlin  IMHO Mr.Clancy is the best author there is  and I'll do that search now (and in case you havn't noticed I like using the  ies  )
Il pollo e fresco! The chicken is fresh!
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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10/02/03 04:43 PM
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I picked the Last Answers on the Poll.
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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10/02/03 07:50 PM
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I have read close to 1000 books over 40 years and The Godfather along with Catch 22, a couple of Frederick Forsythe books, and the Winds of War, remain my favorites.
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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10/03/03 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by CrazedHobo: wow... I'm surpised howmany people thought the godfather book was bad... I loved it (although I have read better, but not on the mafia, and not by much).... neih... Mabye it was Sonny's penis that scared you all away lol (it did scare me too) I thought that the book kind of rambled and didn't have a coherent theme. It's amazing that the novel spawned such great movies. All of Puzo's books are also the same. He really didn't put a lot of pride in his writing after GF was published.
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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10/03/03 05:07 PM
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I loved the movies. Haven't read the book yet, but it is in the mail on the way to my house right now. I hope it is as great as the movie. I will be back to vote as soon as I am done reading.
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Re: The ultimate Godfather novel poll.
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10/10/03 09:16 PM
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Raymondo Corleone
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I don't care whether it is a "Good piece of literature" or whatever. I really enjoy reading it, and although technically one may say that it is flawed in it's writing, it's a damned good story with characters of real depth and development. I love reading it, and I think it's a masterpiece in it's own way.
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