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Re: Legal Services
[Re: Edwin]
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08/26/13 08:28 PM
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LittleNicky
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Our family sold a house in CA, we just needed a relator at closing. Boy that south bay area market is really moving again.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: Turnbull]
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08/26/13 08:31 PM
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The Italian Stallionette
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Of course I've never purchased a mansion or an island or anything like that.  However, the few homes I've purchased in my life, both here in CA and in MI have been thru a realtor. I've never been required to contact a lawyer. Then again I'm sure, as real estate goes, my purchases were pretty basic/straight-forward. TIS In reply to Nicky's post above, I agree. Homes here in SoCal are really moving again compared to even a year ago. I am so please that my property value is going in the upward direction. 
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"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: SC]
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08/26/13 08:37 PM
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I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that this thread is a precursor to spam. Ha ha ha...I didn't even pay attention to the opening post. Well, it's a real estate thread now. LOL Btw, can I have a dollar AND a donut?  TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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08/26/13 08:43 PM
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Btw, can I have a dollar AND a donut? You get a quarter and a doughnut hole.
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: SC]
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08/26/13 08:48 PM
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I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that this thread is a precursor to spam. Sidebar: How many people today would know that expression? Today in class I used "2 bit opinion". Surprisingly, one of my young students knew what it meant.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake."
"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
"Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: olivant]
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08/26/13 08:55 PM
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I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that this thread is a precursor to spam. Sidebar: How many people today would know that expression? Today in class I used "2 bit opinion". Surprisingly, one of my young students knew what it meant. So Oli, in other words you're saying we are old???? One time when my kids were young (about 10/12 or so) I was watching the news and tho I don't even know what the story was, I said to my husband.."What a Mickey Mouse Outfit." Both my kids, who were playing in the other room heard and ran to the tv to see what this "mickey mouse outfit" looked like. I'll never forget it. Cracked me up. Back to real estate....I have sound great swamp land in Florida if anyone is interested. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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08/26/13 09:37 PM
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I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that this thread is a precursor to spam. Sidebar: How many people today would know that expression? Today in class I used "2 bit opinion". Surprisingly, one of my young students knew what it meant. So Oli, in other words you're saying we are old???? TIS No. I'm sayin' ya'll are old!!
"Generosity. That was my first mistake."
"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
"Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: olivant]
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08/26/13 10:25 PM
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I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that this thread is a precursor to spam. Sidebar: How many people today would know that expression? Today in class I used "2 bit opinion". Surprisingly, one of my young students knew what it meant. That's a real surprise, Oli. A couple of years ago, a friend who's a professer at Embry Riddle Aeronautical University here asked me to give my lecture on the U2 spy plane crisis of 1960 to one of his undergraduate classes. I doubt that half the students knew who Eisenhower and Khrushchev were. 
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: Edwin]
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09/27/13 12:03 AM
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Every law firm charge their own rates and also it depend on the state where you are living.Most of the solicitors offering online services try one of them because they charge you cheap rates for their services.
More law, less justice....
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: klydon1]
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09/27/13 02:28 PM
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In Florida all contingency fee contracts must also have a "Statement of Clients Rights" signed contemporaneously. This statement makes it clear that there are no set rates for contoingency fees, and they are negotiable. There is also a rule here that the contingency goes down on a siiding scale after the first million Personally I NEVER take full contingency fee cases. I always chard a flat retainer and a lower contingency fee on whatever fee exceeds the retainer.
Also people should know that hourly rates are going by the wayside. Anyone worth his salt knows what a case will cost. A good way to do this is to put in the contract that the case will be tried for a flat rate, and that the client may make reasonable requests for information. If the calls and e mails are excessive, on notification by the lawyer, the client has to pay $100 a call or e mail for repetritive or excessive hand holding. Also good to put in the flat fee is for the matter at hand only. If client brings up collateral issues there is an hourly charge. Many people hire lawyers to, say ,enforce a contract, and then once they paid the fee they thnk it is their right to call and ask about all kinds of things... their kid got busted for pot, they need to do a closing on a house, etc, and they dont get this is outside the scope of the representation.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: dontomasso]
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09/30/13 09:59 PM
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Also people should know that hourly rates are going by the wayside.
Maybe in shit lawville Don. I work with transactional lawyers who handle real estate transactions, buy sells, purchase agreements, tax matters, estate issues who charge by the hour and the clients pay it. Dont confuse low level PI and dui's with the upper level practice of law. Not everyone does shit law buddy. An email bro? You know what that is? Thats .1 billed.
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Frank Costello: Fucking rats. It's wearing me thin. Mr. French: Francis, it's a nation of fucking rats.
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: dontomasso]
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09/30/13 10:07 PM
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In Florida all contingency fee contracts must also have a "Statement of Clients Rights" signed contemporaneously. This statement makes it clear that there are no set rates for contoingency fees, and they are negotiable. There is also a rule here that the contingency goes down on a siiding scale after the first million Personally I NEVER take full contingency fee cases. I always chard a flat retainer and a lower contingency fee on whatever fee exceeds the retainer.
Also people should know that hourly rates are going by the wayside. Anyone worth his salt knows what a case will cost. A good way to do this is to put in the contract that the case will be tried for a flat rate, and that the client may make reasonable requests for information. If the calls and e mails are excessive, on notification by the lawyer, the client has to pay $100 a call or e mail for repetritive or excessive hand holding. Also good to put in the flat fee is for the matter at hand only. If client brings up collateral issues there is an hourly charge. Many people hire lawyers to, say ,enforce a contract, and then once they paid the fee they thnk it is their right to call and ask about all kinds of things... their kid got busted for pot, they need to do a closing on a house, etc, and they dont get this is outside the scope of the representation. Man you just succinctly and unintentionally defined "shitlaw" in two paragraphs. Hourly billing is not falling by the wayside for anyone but those seriously lacking in either skills, experience or demand. There isn't a reputable firm I know that doesnt do mostly hourly work. I guess there are and have always been exceptions for those doing garbage work like ch 7 deadbeat law, dui fuckups law or bad estate law.
Last edited by LittleNicky; 09/30/13 10:08 PM.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: klydon1]
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10/27/13 07:41 PM
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One thing that I have noticed is that sometimes thee Attorneys who do the most advertising are the last ones I would want to be representing me. The really good lawyers don't need to advertise. They get lots of referrals. Just my opinion True. Beware of regional periodicals, like Best Lawyers in _______, or Who's Who. The attorneys, selected to appear as the best in their fields, are only there because they've paid money. These periodicals suggest that they were selected by merit. But the truth is that they have to pay to be included. That's not to say that they aren't competent, but you have to beware of the selection process., Does that include that SuperLawyers publication ??
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: TheIsland]
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10/28/13 11:34 AM
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One thing that I have noticed is that sometimes thee Attorneys who do the most advertising are the last ones I would want to be representing me. The really good lawyers don't need to advertise. They get lots of referrals. Just my opinion True. Beware of regional periodicals, like Best Lawyers in _______, or Who's Who. The attorneys, selected to appear as the best in their fields, are only there because they've paid money. These periodicals suggest that they were selected by merit. But the truth is that they have to pay to be included. That's not to say that they aren't competent, but you have to beware of the selection process., Does that include that SuperLawyers publication ?? Not sure about SuperLawyers, but I think that is also something one can buy. I get calls every year from these various publications, Who's Who etc/. to get listed. Some of them even have different rates.. i.e. you can be one of the best lawyers in your metro area for one price, the State for another, the region for another and Nationally for another. Also you can pay for longer articles , prominent placement.. you name it. It is a total scam.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: klydon1]
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10/28/13 11:34 AM
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One thing that I have noticed is that sometimes thee Attorneys who do the most advertising are the last ones I would want to be representing me. The really good lawyers don't need to advertise. They get lots of referrals. Just my opinion True. Beware of regional periodicals, like Best Lawyers in _______, or Who's Who. The attorneys, selected to appear as the best in their fields, are only there because they've paid money. These periodicals suggest that they were selected by merit. But the truth is that they have to pay to be included. That's not to say that they aren't competent, but you have to beware of the selection process., The good ones live on word of mouth and referrals from other lawyers, its that simple.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: olivant]
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10/29/13 11:11 AM
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The good ones live on word of mouth and referrals from other lawyers, its that simple. When I want to find a good lawyer, I check with the Devil. He keeps a list of those who have sold him their souls. I didn't know you and Scalia were friends!
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Legal Services
[Re: dontomasso]
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10/29/13 10:42 PM
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The good ones live on word of mouth and referrals from other lawyers, its that simple. When I want to find a good lawyer, I check with the Devil. He keeps a list of those who have sold him their souls. I didn't know you and Scalia were friends! Paisani.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake."
"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
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