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Re: NFL 2013
[Re: olivant]
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09/08/13 10:40 AM
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Bears home opener let go BEARS!!
From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.
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Re: NFL 2013
[Re: olivant]
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09/10/13 07:32 AM
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I couldnt believe Eli threw all them interceptions. Other then that there was A LOT of good plays from the Giants that night.
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Re: NFL 2013
[Re: olivant]
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09/10/13 07:33 AM
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I have to be honest though, I was pretty mad when the Giants loss to the Cowboys. I cant stand that team!!
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Re: NFL 2013
[Re: olivant]
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09/11/13 06:20 PM
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Re: NFL 2013
[Re: MaryCas]
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09/13/13 09:46 AM
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The NFL confirmed that the Super Bowl's halftime performer will be Bruno Mars.
Well, maybe the game will be good. At least it won't be Miley Cyrus. Or Justin Boobie??
I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees!
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Re: NFL 2013
[Re: Dellacroce]
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09/13/13 10:55 AM
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Well, Tebow was cut by the Patriots and has probably heard his last hurrah in the NFL. How does this continue to happen? Tebow, Brady Quinn, Colt McCoy ... the list goes on of college star QBs that fall flat in the NFL. Is it bad scouting? Are they placed in offensive schemes that don't use their talents effectively? Do they play for just plain bad teams? I often wonder about this myself, i think alot of it has to do with the type of offenses they run in college, like alot of offenses center around option play and the wildcat formation and players that specialize in that dont always adjust into the nfl that well. And not to mention that the defensive schemes are much more complicated in the pros and some QBs have trouble reading them. There were a lot of people that forsaw that tebow would not be succesful in the nfl bc of the type of player he was in college. I think a couple of factors come into play. First, the speed of the NFL game is so different than in college. In the NFL, you rarely see any player have speed that is far & away greater than other players on the field. Whereas college there is bigger discrepancy. Second, I think the issue of accuracy is a huge factor with the success (or lack thereof) from college to the pros. Quinn, Tebow, and countless others struggled in college with accuracy. That is not correctable in the pros, where the window and split second a receiver is open is dramatically less than in college. And as Dellacroce pointed out, the ability to read a defense is what separates the Andrew Lucks and the JaMarcus Russells. Defenses are far more complex and deceptive in the pros, which many of the college QBs are not used to seeing and fail to make the adjustment once they get to the NFL.
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Re: NFL 2013
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09/16/13 11:23 AM
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Goombah makes some excellent points. Whereas many college receivers make it easy for their qbs by running away from defenders, in the NFL everyone in the secondary can run. Also the coverages and blitz schemes are far more complex in the NFL than in the best college programs.
One measure that's been helpful in determining what college qbs will find success in the pros is the rule of 26-27-60. A qb, who scores at least a 26 on the Wonderlic, has startes 27 college games as qb, and completed 60% of his passes has a high probability of being a successful pro qb. That's a good measuring stick, Klydon. However, I think the 27 college starts is not enough of a barometer. Especially with the creampuff schedules so many Division I teams play. It happens much less frequently these days, but most of these QBs need to play at least 3 seasons worth of college games. But even guys like Quinn, Leinhart, Vince Young, and Carson Palmer were blue chippers who have had average to subpar pro careers. They simply benefited from having great talent surrounding them at the collegiate level that was missing in the pros.
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Re: NFL 2013
[Re: Yogi Barrabbas]
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09/17/13 11:25 AM
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Yogi, my Steelers will be in London end of the month toplay the Vikings. Are you a fan? It'll play at 1PM EST here; what time is that in London? That will be a 6pm kick off here Oli. Apparently it was the quickest selling Wembley game yet so I reckon there will be a lot of Steeler fans in the house. I shall be watching and rooting for the Steelers!! Bravo! They lost to the Bengals last night, but they showed some good stuff nonetheless. As the season continues, I think they'll significantly improve.
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Re: NFL 2013
[Re: klydon1]
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09/18/13 10:07 AM
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Yogi, my Steelers will be in London end of the month toplay the Vikings. Are you a fan? It'll play at 1PM EST here; what time is that in London? That will be a 6pm kick off here Oli. Apparently it was the quickest selling Wembley game yet so I reckon there will be a lot of Steeler fans in the house. I shall be watching and rooting for the Steelers!! I'm sure there'll be many Terrible Towels flying in Wembley. Most definitely 
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Re: NFL 2013
[Re: klydon1]
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09/19/13 01:04 PM
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What's with Cleveland trading Trent Richardson their first round pick in May (#3 overall) for the Colts' first rounder next year (likely to be in the 20s overall)? You have not noticed a pattern of idiotic moves from the Cleveland front office since 1999? This trade will be a good move if they draft a franchise QB in next year's draft. However, nothing in Cleveland's draft history in the past 14 years indicates that they will get it right. This front office - rightly so - did not like the players brought in by Mike Holmgren. Thus the exodus of Weeden as the starting QB and trading Richardson. This trade is interesting because Richardson has been average (3 yds p/carry), comes out on 3rd down, and has already had 3 injuries since being drafted. Enter Indy, who lost their starting RB for the season last week. They overpaid for Richardson, who will benefit from a better QB in Luck. But Richardson is a small back who I think will continue to be hampered by injuries. So I think Cleveland was wise to land a #1 pick for him which they wouldn't have gotten in the offseason. And I think had Indy not lost its running back and not had a franchise QB in place, they would not have overpaid with a #1 pick.
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