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Re: Would Bobby Bacala have been a good Boss?
[Re: Philip_Lombardo]
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09/03/13 12:30 PM
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Lou_Para
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First and foremost,I don't think Bobby would want the job. He had a decent life,no aggravation,and was happy to stay put. Having said that,I don't see Bobby as holding on to the top spot if he were to get it. No question he was loyal and a good earner,a good husband and father,and one of the most mentally stable guys in the Family,but not Boss material. Bobby had a soft side,and was a decent human being,and these things,while admirable in our world,are considered birth defects in the OC world. I know that Bobby did commit some violent acts,but I feel that it was only because of orders,and if it were up to him,he wouldn't have. Bottom line,I think that he would have been perceived as weak both inside and outside the Family. New York would give him the illusion of respect,but would have him dancing on puppet strings,and his own guys would probably get away with chiseling him on their kick-ups way more than they would have under Tony. Good earner,great guy,bad Boss.
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Re: Would Bobby Bacala have been a good Boss?
[Re: Philip_Lombardo]
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09/16/13 10:06 AM
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LittleNicky
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It seems like Bobby went from a complete moron in the first several seasons to a pretty decent mobster. Still seemed too weak and not smart enough to be a decent boss.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Would Bobby Bacala have been a good Boss?
[Re: Philip_Lombardo]
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09/16/13 05:35 PM
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LittleMan
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Did Bobby really have a reputation as being a good earner? Not sure about the accuracy of Wiki, but here is what was written about him....
"Tony had recently stepped up his expectations of Bobby, whom he felt was taking their brother-in-law relationship as an excuse not to earn at a competitive level, compared to other members of the family. Bobby rose to the occasion by supplementing his income with $7000 he received for shooting a rapper he met at the hospital, while Tony was in the ICU, in order to raise the rapper's profile."
In addition, in one scene at the doctor's office, Junior was complaining to Tony to get additional funds to pay for his high priced lawyer. Tony advised Junior to get his shy in order if he wanted to make more money. I think Bobby may have been in charge of running that for Junior, and if so, he wasn't doing a very good job.
You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
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Re: Would Bobby Bacala have been a good Boss?
[Re: Philip_Lombardo]
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09/22/13 11:45 PM
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In my opinion Bobby would have become a good boss. He showed that he was able to go toe to toe with Tony and handle himself, although we would have to take into account Tony was a little drunk. He also showed he was able to get his hands dirty with the hit that he was tasked with carrying out. Bobby also spent a lot of time around Uncle Junior and would have picked up a few things from him as well as his father who was a well established hit-man for the DiMeo family back in his day. Bobby is also a like-able guy and towards the end of the series his ruthless side begins to develop a lot. Overall Bobby would have been able to transition well into the role of boss.
Here's some standard operating procedure. Stay the fuck away from Tony Soprano, shut the fuck up and listen. It's over. Capisce? Over and done. You call, or go anywhere near him or his family and they'll be scraping your nipples off these fine leather seats. And here's the point to remember: my face is the last one you'll see, not Tony's, we understand each other? It won't be cinematic.
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Re: Would Bobby Bacala have been a good Boss?
[Re: Giacomo_Vacari]
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12/09/13 11:30 PM
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No, Bobby was not strong enough to hold that title if he got it, unless he made a deal with the New York crime families, to be a puppet boss. That's a good point and maybe this should be another thread but I think in many ways Tony was a "puppet boss". On more than one occasion the Soprano Family was referred to as a "glorified crew" especially by Carmine Sr. and Phil. It seems to me that without the protection of the Lupertazzi Family the Sopranos would have been targets for the other four New York Families. The series doesn't go into great detail about how the Sopranos worked with any other New York factions (probably to keep things simple) so it seems that the Sopranos were the New Jersey arm of the Lupertazzis and were off limits to any hostile takeovers by the other four Families. When Johnny Sac contracted Tony to whack Carmine Sr. it was mentioned that a relative of Johnnys (cousin, brother in law - I can't remember) was a boss or other high ranking member of another (unnamed) New York Family. This would indicate that two out of five would have probably supported the move and that there would be no repercussions. If the Sopranos were independent wouldn't Tony need the approval of the other Families if not the Commission? The other situation that makes me think that Tony was a puppet was when Phil went to war and took out Sil and Bobby there was no concern about what the other Families would do. To me it points to this being treated as an internal situation within a Family as opposed to two separate Families going to war. I think that Tony (and Uncle Jun, Jackie etc...) were given the title of Boss based on geography and being the largest Lupertazzi crew.
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Re: Would Bobby Bacala have been a good Boss?
[Re: Philip_Lombardo]
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12/27/13 10:50 PM
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LittleMan
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Lol over the idea that Janice would have been the first lady in the north Jersey underworld.
You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
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Re: Would Bobby Bacala have been a good Boss?
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Bacala had the, uh, stomach for lots of things, but to be boss? Never.
"Las Vegas was never the same. In the old days, the dealers knew your name. Today it's all gone. After the Teamsters got kicked out, the big corporations tore down practically every one of the old casinos. And where did the money come from to build the 'pyramids?' Junk bonds." Sam "Ace" Rothstein
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Re: Would Bobby Bacala have been a good Boss?
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surprised to see so many of you think bobby would be a good boss. he was hardly respected in NJ and barely even recognized in NY. people would be shorting him all day long and idk if he would be iron-fisted enough to deal with it without losing the spot eventually. That's wrong. Maybe early in the series when he was first introduced, however around the time the show was coming to a close it was Bobby that Tony was taking with him to meetings in NY. And as mentioned, Phil specifically ordered the hit on Bobby instead of Paulie because Bobby had become more powerful than Paulie, he rose quicker and surpassed him, part of it was definitely because of his relationship with Tony, which also may have factored into Phil's decision because if you hit the boss, who's the first to retaliate other than the one who was closest to him? And that became Bobby. So, Bobby was definitely recognized in NY and respected in Jersey. that's why i used the word "barely". that same scene where phil was considering who to hit, all the NY guys were amused at the fact bobby even made it so far in the administration, and it was clear they had very little, if any, actual respect for him. i believe they referred to him as a mortadell lol.
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Re: Would Bobby Bacala have been a good Boss?
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11/25/18 09:37 PM
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that's why i used the word "barely". that same scene where phil was considering who to hit, all the NY guys were amused at the fact bobby even made it so far in the administration, and it was clear they had very little, if any, actual respect for him. i believe they referred to him as a mortadell lol. But right after that guy who ended up shooting Silvio said "That mortadell is number three? He used to be Junior Soprano's driver" Albie straightens him out by saying "And you used to sell laser printers out the back your Crown Vic." Lol.
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