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Re: How do the wealthiest mobsters up against dealers?
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Re: How do the wealthiest mobsters up against dealers?
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Re: How do the wealthiest mobsters up against dealers?
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There were some very rich drug dealers like Pablo Escobar, frank Matthews, freeway Ricky Ross, alpo Martinez, Nicky Barnes, bumpy Johnson etc. There's a lot more than I named. But have any mobsters ever matched up against them in terms of power and money? I have a hard time believing it. I was watching a frank Matthews documentary on YouTube and one of the guys said that the mafia was overrated. He said there were many times where they couldn't come up with money. Idk how much stock I would put into what he said but does anyone want to dispute what he said? I know a lot of people have said that carmine lombardozzi made a lot of money. As well as the bosses(obviously). You have to separate Escobar from the rest of those guys you listed. He was one of the top bosses of a drug cartel that was international in scope. Totally different scale than most of those other guys who operated only within a certain region of the U.S., if not just a certain city. Guys like Matthews, Ross, Barnes, etc. were millionaires but never saw anything close to a billion dollars. The top guys in the Colombian and Mexican cartels have been worth perhaps $1-2 billion at most. Escobar, the Rodriguez Orejuela brothers, Chapo Guzman, etc. I personally don't think any American LCN guy ever got close to a billion either. $100 million, yeah. Maybe a few hundred million. But the mafiosi that got close to or north of a billion would probably be found in the syndicates over in Italy.
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Re: How do the wealthiest mobsters up against dealers?
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You have to separate Escobar from the rest of those guys you listed. He was one of the top bosses of a drug cartel that was international in scope. Totally different scale than most of those other guys who operated only within a certain region of the U.S., if not just a certain city.
Guys like Matthews, Ross, Barnes, etc. were millionaires but never saw anything close to a billion dollars. The top guys in the Colombian and Mexican cartels have been worth perhaps $1-2 billion at most. Escobar, the Rodriguez Orejuela brothers, Chapo Guzman, etc.
I personally don't think any American LCN guy ever got close to a billion either. $100 million, yeah. Maybe a few hundred million. But the mafiosi that got close to or north of a billion would probably be found in the syndicates over in Italy.
excluding international and cartel guys. domestic distributors i would include within the mafia was perhaps vincent papa and joe dinapoli, Papa was a wholesaler and partenered with dinapoli, who then sold kilos for $22,000 each to associates who then distributed it to mid level dealers. Then you had louis inglese was another big guy that also was supplied by papa. Papa must have cleared over $100 million with distribution chain and also the direct connect to the french connection dope. However you also have to acknowledge that he didnt control the street level sales aswell like barnes or any of those other guys did.
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Re: How do the wealthiest mobsters up against dealers?
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He that's the documentary I was talking about. I really liked his documentary on NYC. I thought he was extremely accurate there. But does the mob still make a lot of money from the stock market? pump and dump schemes. Joe massino was doing that but I dont know and havent heard of anything going on about it in the news.
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Re: How do the wealthiest mobsters up against dealers?
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Skinny,was Catena involved with or related to the big car dealer in NJ?
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Re: How do the wealthiest mobsters up against dealers?
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Read the book by pablos brother.he said they would write off 10%of all there money every year that was dameged by rats or dampness
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Re: How do the wealthiest mobsters up against dealers?
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Were there ever any huge earners who were bigger than the drug dealers who weren't involved in drugs? Jerry Catena was worth over a billion when he died. And he was retired for over 20 years Catena is an interesting character, what do u know about him?
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