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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: mattsto]
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11/18/13 09:09 PM
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I just dont buy that the top crew would've shifted from Cicero to Elmwood park, as the feds are implying that it did post Carlisi's death/Infelice going away. Keep in mind, these are the same people that were under the impression that Joey Lombardo was the top guy for a few years. They really couldn't decide who was the top guy between Marcello & DiFronzo. They went back & forth on it for years. I think if you'll look at the situation rationally & sensibly, you'll find that it's just common sense that Marcello became #1 after Infelise (who was on course to be #1, and was, for a very brief period of time) got locked up. It's the only thing that makes sense.
As of right now, I believe the Outfit is run by a three headed panel consisting of Solly DeLaurentis, Frank Caruso, and Jimmy Inendino. Again, breaking things down based on seniority/time spent standing on their heads, it's the only thing that makes sense. I don't consider Elmwood Park to even be a functioning crew anymore.
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: HuronSocialAthletic]
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11/18/13 10:18 PM
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I just dont buy that the top crew would've shifted from Cicero to Elmwood park, as the feds are implying that it did post Carlisi's death/Infelice going away. Keep in mind, these are the same people that were under the impression that Joey Lombardo was the top guy for a few years. They really couldn't decide who was the top guy between Marcello & DiFronzo. They went back & forth on it for years. I think if you'll look at the situation rationally & sensibly, you'll find that it's just common sense that Marcello became #1 after Infelise (who was on course to be #1, and was, for a very brief period of time) got locked up. It's the only thing that makes sense.
As of right now, I believe the Outfit is run by a three headed panel consisting of Solly DeLaurentis, Frank Caruso, and Jimmy Inendino. Again, breaking things down based on seniority/time spent standing on their heads, it's the only thing that makes sense. I don't consider Elmwood Park to even be a functioning crew anymore. That makes a lot of sense and you could very well be right. Great theory/ explanation!
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: funkster]
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11/18/13 11:57 PM
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Who was the guy they called "flapjack" in the Marcello recordings? Anyone know? I asked the same question earlier. I believe it's referring the Joseph "The Builder" Andriacchi
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: mattsto]
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11/19/13 01:04 AM
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Re: Chicago Outfit
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11/19/13 01:14 AM
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Must be Andriacchi then cause they specifically mention that the flapjack guy, Pagliacci, and this guy (points to nose), all had DNA swabs taken. Coen mentions they call him flapjack cause he owns a pancake house.
Side note, just found out a friend/client of a family member of mine testified in FS. Crazy.
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: jonnynonos]
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11/19/13 01:23 AM
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It's a pancake house in Elmwood Park > You eat there with ya mudda when youse was little?
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: HuronSocialAthletic]
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11/19/13 01:04 PM
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I just dont buy that the top crew would've shifted from Cicero to Elmwood park, as the feds are implying that it did post Carlisi's death/Infelice going away. Keep in mind, these are the same people that were under the impression that Joey Lombardo was the top guy for a few years. They really couldn't decide who was the top guy between Marcello & DiFronzo. They went back & forth on it for years. I think if you'll look at the situation rationally & sensibly, you'll find that it's just common sense that Marcello became #1 after Infelise (who was on course to be #1, and was, for a very brief period of time) got locked up. It's the only thing that makes sense.
As of right now, I believe the Outfit is run by a three headed panel consisting of Solly DeLaurentis, Frank Caruso, and Jimmy Inendino. Again, breaking things down based on seniority/time spent standing on their heads, it's the only thing that makes sense. I don't consider Elmwood Park to even be a functioning crew anymore. actually it makes perfect sense auippa, carlisi, infelice, spano, marcello, etc. all got incarcerated why keep installing bosses from cicero when they were getting hammered federally
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: HuronSocialAthletic]
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11/19/13 01:40 PM
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"Mudder" is how We would pronounce it here in Chicago You ever here the queen song MUDDER OOOOOOO
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Re: Chicago Outfit
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11/19/13 03:05 PM
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I heard that flapjack was Joseph "The Builder" Andriacchi. One of Solly D's kids died over the summer in a motorcycle accident. I read the obituary online and there is a website set up for a foundation for him. I believe his kids same was Solly jr. I just heard that Donald Scalise died a few weeks ago. He was part of Marco D'Amico's crew and was convicted when they shook down a greek restaraunt owner in the early 80's and convicted of bookmaking in early 2000. Was just coming on here to post this. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/chicagotribune/obituary.aspx?pid=167707626
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Re: Chicago Outfit
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11/19/13 03:06 PM
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We're not going to know for sure, either way. But I do think it's pretty apparent that: 1) Elmwood Park is virtually shut down 2) Cicero is likely the only real remaining active crew
And it that's the case, which I believe it is, I highly doubt that the south siders, even if DiFronzo is nominally still "the boss" ie a professor emeritus, would be asking his permission on almost anything at all, and, two I doubt he would even want to know.
You step back because you don't want to go to jail. Are you including Chinatown/26th in that?
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: mattsto]
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11/19/13 03:52 PM
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: funkster]
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11/19/13 03:56 PM
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I heard that flapjack was Joseph "The Builder" Andriacchi. One of Solly D's kids died over the summer in a motorcycle accident. I read the obituary online and there is a website set up for a foundation for him. I believe his kids same was Solly jr. I just heard that Donald Scalise died a few weeks ago. He was part of Marco D'Amico's crew and was convicted when they shook down a greek restaraunt owner in the early 80's and convicted of bookmaking in early 2000. Was just coming on here to post this. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/chicagotribune/obituary.aspx?pid=167707626 Solly Jr. actually died a few years ago, not this last summer. Solly D was already out of prison at the time. Coincidentally, Solly's ex-wife Donna is one of the first who posted condolences under Sponge's obit. I have acquaintances that were very saddened by Sponge's death. He was actually yet another made Outfit member who was with the CPD back in the 1970s and 1980s. Sponge was essentially the protege of Tony Dote and worked closely with Elmwood Park crew members like Mags, Rudy Fratto, Patty Mazza, Frankie Adamo and Gary Gagliano. I believe he did a bit around 2002 or so for bookmaking but was out by 2004 or so.
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: mattsto]
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11/19/13 04:23 PM
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: Mark]
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11/19/13 06:46 PM
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"Mudder" is how We would pronounce it here in Chicago Dat's right, my friend! Me, my brudder and my udder brudder went out tooda burbs an' fixed my mudder's gutters while waitin' for Da Bears' game ta resume on Sunday! Of course we hadda stop in Berwyn at Big Guy's Sausage Stand for a Polish and a couple a beef saingwiches! Haha that about sums it up. Welcome to Chicago.
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