no shit hu

The same type of comparison could be said about you trying to talk about Italian mafias in Italy, which you cannot speak about.

Generally when I talk about the Calabrase gangs, I am talking about the Canadian incarnation, who I have had brushes and c ontact with. No matter what you have heard, they are a bunch of inept drug addicts who shake down bingo parlors and sell liquer and cigertts with no tax stampp out of the trucks of cars, they are a joke,,,jus sayin

Your grammar and spelling is getting worse by the post. According to what you said, you're very "articulate and a master wordsmith" when you're angry.
Maybe you'd like to get angry so I can understand you better.

Out of everyone on this board, I wonder who has all actually been to Italy. If they been to Italy I wonder what regions. I may start a thread about that.

Honey clearly you can understand me fine, and I'm gusessing compared to the company you keep, I am Alan Fucking Rickman...LOL
English is not my first langauge, but if you would like me to turn write an english paper and run it all through a spell check..For you....no problem

Alright, you're new here so you get an explanation. Stop the civil war now. The NY/Chicago debate is old and tired and simply irritating.

I don't even know who Alan Rickman is.
So what is your native language, if you don't mind saying.

Time to tone it down. It's obvious nobody believes your claims here so stop with the fantasies and chill.

I've been. Landed in Milan worked my way down and left a month later from Rome.

I was in Greece once, that's pretty close to italy

Actually..I have had people PM me and guess correctly who I am in R/L...but as you wish

Alan Rickman is a British actor who is known for his distictive voice and his flawless articulation.
I spoke both Italian and Sicilian before I spoke English.

Somebody PMed me and guessed that I am Madonna in real life. I said "correct". It was a good day all around.

Amen !

Ahh I get it. So you're trying to say compared to the company I keep, you're well versed in english. Ok, got it.

I actually neither confirmed or denied, as is my media policy

yeah..it was a joke...thus the LOL

I'm a pretty nice guy when you get to know me

Anyway..yes...been to Sicily several times...Marionapoli is where my fathers side originated

cool

What's your point? Just because the feds may not specifically cite a mob connection in a certain case, it doesn't mean they are not aware of it. Quit looking for excuses to ignore the feds just because you don't like what they say.

And no, the mob doesn't broadcast it's affairs on the nine o'clock news. That's why we are largely dependent on the feds who investigate them. And why somebody simply living in Chicago and posting on the internet isn't going to know much of anything about the Outfit's inner workings.



You had the Hogan/Passo IBT case in 2001. Sam Cecola being banned by the Nevada Gambing Commission in 2001. And the Crazy Horse Too bust in 2003.

I'll sayn it one more time, the reason to doubt the Feds is becuse they lie. I don't say they lie, they say they lie and once again, went to the highest court in the land for the right to do so. I gave multiple examples of this earlier in the thread
I'm not baiting or trolling, this is a sereous question;
How and why would you ever beleive an entity who by it's own admission, publishes lies and misinformation ?

It's funny that they only lie when it is information that goes against your position. It also doesn't mean that because there is some possibility of misinformation, that they always most spead misinformation. Most of their five families material over the last decade has been accurate. So continuing to whine about a supreme court cases is way off topic (although I would love to know the citation of this mythical case and see legal analysis beyond someone with a 4th grade education).

As I said before, they cannot hide indictments and court proceedings. The lack of substantive indictments only points in one direction, a major fall in blue collar LCN activity. End of story.

@ivyleague


u scream about indictments, now u have an indictment, and it still ain't good enough for u

totally contradicting yourself

What indictment? The one with some lunatic threatening possibly Chicago-affiliated guys? If anything that was a plot AGAINST the outfit. And it made the outfit sound pathetic more than anything. Can you imagine such a outlandish plot against them 30 years ago when it was a strong family.

All of you are dipshits. They St. Louis Crime family appoints the head of the Outfit and the Five Families. You've never heard of them because they are so fucking secretive that law enforcement doesn't even think that the exist anymore. They're so secretive that none of the crews know who the other crews are cause the crew don't talk to each other. They're so secretive that the members never even talk to each other. The St. Louis crime family is a guy on The Hill sitting in his basement on a couch covered with plastic.

@Dago:

If you'd like to stop being treated as stupid. Stop saying stupid things.

Simple see?

Most of their five families material over the last decade has been accurate?
You are joking right?
As recently as 2008 the FBI had the Gambino Family "All but extinct with a splintered leadership"
I'll say it again...they lie
They have publicly admitted they lie
They sued to lie
And you don't question them?
Really?
For the record, I for one never denied a "decrease in activity", nor did I say they "always" lie..if they did that would defeat their purpose. Again, what you seem either incapable or unwilling to understand is the mix of truth and misinformation is an investigative method, both to detect leaks and to provoke chatter to gather for intelligence.
A good rule of thumb is that is you KNOW that someone is lying at least part or most of the time, err on the side of believing little or nothing.

This is an exception. THIS you can believe!