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Had Joe Spinell lived...
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02/18/14 08:37 PM
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I was on Wikipedia and reading up on the character Willie Cicci. It was written that Willie would have been a major character in GF3, however he died before they started filming. They said that his character was written out and replaced by Joey Saza. So my question is, had Spinell lived, do you think the Willie Cicci character would have been the one making the beef with Michael Corleone?
Also to consider- Willie Cicci had testified against Michael in GF2. So how would they make this work for GF3?
"Now, that plane goes to Miami." "That's right. That's where I want it met."
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Re: Had Joe Spinell lived...
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02/19/14 01:18 AM
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I wonder why in the Wikipedia article then they mentioned he would be main character in GF3?
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Re: Had Joe Spinell lived...
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He said "At first, I was a button." I inferred that, by II, he must have been Frankie's consigliere or maybe a caporegime, considering how close he stayed with Frankie. Good point. Going by the Family Org Chart from the Lebo book, Willie is listed with "Buttons - Soldiers". Maybe there are different ranks of Button like Button First Class, Second Class, etc.  :), but after that Chart, with Frankie promoted, did Willie move up the to Capo spot or did Carmine "The Plunge" Coronda leap-frog Willie? 
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Re: Had Joe Spinell lived...
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He said "At first, I was a button." I inferred that, by II, he must have been Frankie's consigliere or maybe a caporegime, considering how close he stayed with Frankie. Actually being a buton is a big deal....e.g. Carlo was never a button... the button had theo be someone a capo trusted and someone who could rise up through the rnmks
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Re: Had Joe Spinell lived...
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04/08/14 05:54 AM
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Cicci definitely was going to be in Part III. He is in either the Death of Michael Corleone script or the original Part III script that had Hagen in it too. I read it...it's on line somewhere. I can't remember if they even allude to the committee hearing though, which made it an easy switch to someone else like Zasa.
I don't know how they would have made that plausible but I don't think FFC and Puzo were working on Part II levels of decision making mastery at that time.
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Re: Had Joe Spinell lived...
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Granted,anything is possible in the movie biz,but I think it would have been a stretch to put Cicci in Part III,at least the Part III that we saw.
Mike kills his own brother,kills Hyman Roth,(who was no longer a threat to him),and kills Five Angels (who never testified). I can't believe that a guy who actually took the stand against Mike,and embarrassed him in front of the whole country would get a pass.
Maybe Michael would have been dead by then, or some other major plot twist would have been in the works,but barring that,no way,no how, does Cicci show up in III,except maybe as another Fabrizio scenario.
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Re: Had Joe Spinell lived...
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-take her to the zoo mike-
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Re: Had Joe Spinell lived...
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I'd like to see this GF3 script, I know I've seen a "First Draft" (3/22/79) that has Hagen in it and has some subplot with Tony joining the CIA, and Hagen gets gunned down in his car.
Seems pretty silly to me.
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Re: Had Joe Spinell lived...
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09/03/14 04:40 PM
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-take her to the zoo mike- Retards like the zoo.
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