You guys hear about this? According to CNN he was arrested "for questioning" about the 1972 murder of an IRA widow whom they suspected of being a spy for the British (RUC, I guess?).

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/30/world/europe/gerry-adams-police/

Anyway Adams is maintaining his innocence. The article suggests that this could potentially upset the tenuous peace in N. Ireland.

Odd they are trying to get a conviction out of a 30 year old murder case. Anyone care to guess their chances of actually getting Gerry Adams into a court room? What will this mean for Sinn Fein?

I don't think much will come of this. He's too popular to the Irish. The peace is being maintained at the moment. If Gerry goes to the pen you can bet that peace won't last. And the English have their hands full already, they aren't the powerhouse they once were.

Like the reporter said at the end of the video, "he is the most important political figure that England has wanted to put away"

Northern Ireland Police= English.

Fiona from "Burn Notice" has made me an IRA sympathizer. If she'd throw me a jump I might even donate some money.

hahaha Fiona the Arms Trafficker!

I side with the IRA because they are all Catholic like the majority of Italians. They are fighting the same war America did 300 years ago to get away from the British.

I can pretty much sympathize with any group who want sovereignty from an occupying government. Which doesn't mean I agree with their methods, of course. But the realist in me also believes that the only real impetus for change is the threat of violence. Otherwise what's to stop them from patting you on the head, smiling politely and saying "that's nice, billy, now scoot!"?

edit: maybe it's a slightly ironic sentiment coming from a man who lives in (possibly) the only nation that won its sovereignty by asking nicely. but then again, the queen's still on our money and she's still the technical "head of state".

There were so many horrific murders that took place during the Troubles, carried out by the UVF/UDA, The British Army, and IRA. But of course, the British government has never provided the names of the ruthless, cold blooded killers under their employment who shot down 14 unarmed Catholic civil rights marchers, including teenagers, on Bloody Sunday in 1972. They also have never identified the government officials who colluded with the UDA murderers who murdered Catholic civil rights attorney Patrick Finucane in 1989 by shooting him 14 times at his dinner table in front of his wife and three young children who cowered under the kitchen table. Nobody in the British government has been brought to justice for those heinous acts. Yet, they go after Gerry Adams for a 40 year old murder. They pick and choose. And we all know why. Despicable.

Sorry, don't get me started on this!

I'm pretty sure we all feel the same way you do about this Mike. Only one or two posters on here will blatantly defend England (abc, and one other guy)

Sad fact is when it comes to military strength the English have the upper hand over the Irish, It's why they can pull tactics like this to try and dismantle Sinn Fein and destabilize the Irish. Sad that the English are THAT desperate to hold on to what little power they have left in this world by exerting force against the Irish.

I don't want to start an argument here, but in my opinion it's not like one terrorist group can be better than the other: pro-Irish or pro-British, if they blow innocents up with bombs etc, it's pretty clears what should be done to them. However, from what I read, the pro-British terrorists get away with murder more often than the opposite side, that's sad.

By the way, were the Shankill Butchers (have recently watched a documentary) part of this political struggle or was it just a street gang on their own?

Another question: are there still political murders for the territory between Irish and British political groups? I thought they pretty much mixed up with street gangs nowadays, please correct me if I am wrong.

I can't believe that this is up on an organised crime forum yet again

This piece of shit is being questioned about the murder of a mother of 10

Yet people sympathise because he is a Roman Catholic and us Brits have allegedly oppressed these people

Don't want this crap to start again on here, had enough with the other thread a while back


Lets think before we post!

Seriously you are going to throw "allegedly" out there for what the english have done to irish going back 400 years. It's not allegedly, its fact. Where to go from here is the only question.

Yeah, I'm not in this argument. But that's like saying that Carlo Gambino was "allegedly" a gangster.

Sure native Americans could say the same, they did not form into terrorists though....

Maybe people could spare a thought for the victims and let the murderer's rot in hell!

I can understand feeling somewhat offended at this discussion, it's not an easy thing to accept of one's nation, but, unfortunate realities should not discourage dialogue between interested parties.

terrorist is just a word governments use to describe grass roots rebellion against oppressive states. As I said in my original post, being capable of empathy with these groups, by no means I agree with their methods or even their politics. However, there is no denying that England is an occupational government. This is essentially the exact situation that is happening in the Ukraine right now. The only difference is that England has been doing it for hundreds of years.

So yeah, the murder of a mother of ten is an atrocious act and whomever is guilty should rightfully be brought to justice. perhaps not at the expense of a hard fought for peace in that region, however. The needs of the many, my friend. And that's assuming he's guilty, which we won't know unless he goes to trial.

Honestly - It's very telling that you've already made up your mind before the facts have even been presented, dude. Just sayin'. Try to look past nationalism and see the world for what it is.

The reason why there are so many people of Irish descent in America right now is because of the genocide or "potato famine" at the hands of the British in the 1800's when starving women and children were allowed to die like animals while Irish crops were being sent to Britain under armed escort and aid from other countries was being turned away by the British.

It's actually as bad as the holocaust when you factor in the fatalities, the barbarism, mass emigration and the future wars it undoubtedly contributed to.

Don't get me wrong, murder of innocents is despicable regardless of what side you are on. But Gerry Adams is a choir boy compared to Maggie Thatcher who allowed the hunger strikers to waste away .

Gerry Adams is responsible for the deaths of many and you should remember Jean McConville like many of their victims were Roman Catholics too..

Its not England in occupation its British, also the majority in Northern Ireland wish to remain British

I am a Presbyterian and live in Glasgow, i have relatives in Ulster and many friends.I have lost a relative and also 2 close friends to republican terrorists and i have known others who were also murdered

Maybe one day the Taliban will sit in the American government then you may understand how we feel...

As for the potato famine, this affected Protestants just as much, in fact there were more Protestants who emigrated to the US than RCs

There are 2 sides to every story, but it seems a lot of you buy into the republican propaganda without understanding the full story...

I enjoy this site, have an interest in the LCN and have nothing against America, but i get fed up coming on here to see my nation being slandered, and in particular in the name of a terrorist!

Lets leave it out, if you don't mind

"Slandered". I don't think you understand the meaning of the word, British. Everything I said is irrefutable fact.

Far more Catholics emigrated to the US than Protestants. The Protestants who emigrated to the US were "Scotch Irish", the same people that owned land and slaves. Does that sound like religious persecution to you?

There are plenty of Catholic victims murdered by British armed forces and Protestants. An example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972) Remember when the British opened fire on unarmed civilians?

Then there is the fact that Catholics in Northern Ireland were/are pretty much blacklisted from joining their police service.

Then there are the countless provocative Orange Order marches through Catholic neighborhoods, a modern day equivalent of pogroms or KKK cross burnings.

I suggest everyone google Orange Order riots to see what British's brethren are like and come to their own conclusions.

And don't feel too sorry for his relative or friends. There is a very significant chance that they too were members of terrorist organisations.

Did you know? British's favourite football club, Glasgow Rangers, had a policy of not signing Irish and/or Catholic footballers for over a hundred years up until one or two years ago.

Northern Ireland is an occupied country. To understand the IRA's motivations, you have to ask yourself how the English would react if Germany started occupying their country, stealing their land, making slaves of their people, massacred unarmed civilians and wouldn't leave.

As Paul McCartney said, give Ireland back to the Irish.

It comes down to England's imperial ambitious in Ireland, a place with a different people, culture and religion. Northern Ireland is just an English colony, plain and simple. Scotland experienced a similar fate with english genocide in the 17th century.

Historical, england acted in the wrong. Granted, it is the story of human history everywhere in the world. Power.

But don't play the moral card now. It's just a matter of continuing the peace process. I'm not sure this event helps it.

I just wish the native Americans are reading this rubbish

None of my relative or friends were involved in the paramilitaries you fucking piece of shit

Absolutely disgusting

No need to resort to personal abuse, British. Trivialise a genocide that killed millions of people, including my ancestors, and you are going to ruffle feathers.

And you have lied about so many things already, how can anyone take you at face value about these "friends" of yours?

It's unfortunate, British. Any country that is occupied and has been oppressed for hundreds of years will have a segment of people who turn their frustrations into violence.

I have lied about nothing, i take it this is the other poster who called himself Sean South using another name, pathetic!


We all have ancestors who suffered one way or another but to decry my family and friends who were murdered is disgusting

Scum..

I don't know much about it but always found it odd who someone like Adams could make such a seamless transition to the legit world.

Right that's me off this site. What a bunch of dick heads you lot really are ta ta

No reason for this. Agree to disagree or take it off the boards for God's sake .

I don't even like Gerry Adams but there are plenty of high profile Unionist politicians in Northern Ireland who are just as cancerous as he is.

God knows how many people Ian Paisley has inspired to go out and kill with his bombastic hate speeches and bigotry.

Somebody talking about members of your family and friends who were murdered would be ok then?


I asked that this thread be reigned back, but it's not


I asked that admin delete this whole thread

None of your family members or friends died. You are trolling. Your name is "British" and your signature is "British is Best" for God's sake.

If you keep verbally attacking people on the forum, it will be you taking a holiday not this thread.

Really, the only trolls is Scum like you!

My family were from the village in south Belfast, my uncle was murdered In 1983

I had a friend murdered in Lisburn and another murdered in Londonderry

I can't believe you people....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27250928

Unfortunately, British, it is hard to take you at face value because you have been caught in several lies on another forum and got booted off that one for personally attacking other posters.

I sincerely hope you are not posing as a family member of deceased people now because that is crossing a line and a new low even for you.