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Re: Reasons to join the Mob in 2014??
[Re: TheAustralian]
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05/12/14 05:05 AM
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TheKillingJoke
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Not all Italian-Americans have the opportunity to go to college. As Philip Lombardo stated above: a fair amount of Italians in the USA are probably still working class people. The Italian-American working class population is the largest in New York City and probably will remain for years to come. Wherever there's a more or less impoverished working class, there will be organized crime. It's only natural for some people to long for more wealth and power, wealth and power other opportunities will not give them. So until the Italian-American working class in NYC fully disappears or at the least shrink to a near-extinction level, the Five Families will be around.
And organized crime from the white working class isn't a solely Italian thing. The Italian-Americans are just known for the large organization called the 'American mafia', but the Irish also always had and still have their own gangs in the USA as well as back in Ireland. The British working class in the UK has traditionally also been an emergence pool for organized crime. And when you ask yourself the question "and how about the Dutch? The Germans? The Danish? The Anglo-Americans? The French Canadians?...", they all have their criminal organizations as well, mostly in the form of outlaw motorcycle gangs. You could argue that they don't carry the same cloud the mafia does, but there's no denying in the fact that there's an amount of bikers (especially in Europe and Canada, as well as Australia) that are as vicious and feared as any of the traditional 'mafia'-type groups, and in some cases just as organized.
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Re: Reasons to join the Mob in 2014??
[Re: TheKillingJoke]
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05/12/14 05:14 AM
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pizzaboy
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Not all Italian-Americans have the opportunity to go to college. As Philip Lombardo stated above: a fair amount of Italians in the USA are probably still working class people. The Italian-American working class population is the largest in New York City and probably will remain for years to come. Not anymore. Most Italian Americans have bolted for the suburbs. There are far more "working class" Latinos actually living in New York City today than Italians. Look no further than the 2010 census. But if you meant the "New York City metropolitan area," then your statement certainly has merit. And I agree with the rest of your post. It will be some time before assimilation completely diminishes the mob's recruiting pool  .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Reasons to join the Mob in 2014??
[Re: pizzaboy]
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05/12/14 05:54 AM
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TheKillingJoke
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Not all Italian-Americans have the opportunity to go to college. As Philip Lombardo stated above: a fair amount of Italians in the USA are probably still working class people. The Italian-American working class population is the largest in New York City and probably will remain for years to come. Not anymore. Most Italian Americans have bolted for the suburbs. There are far more "working class" Latinos actually living in New York City today than Italians. Look no further than the 2010 census. But if you meant the "New York City metropolitan area," then your statement certainly has merit. And I agree with the rest of your post. It will be some time before assimilation completely diminishes the mob's recruiting pool  . I meant that since NYC still has the overall largest Italian-American community in comparison with other cities (Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit,...) with a historically large Italian community, that there will be a bigger Italian working class population in NYC than in other cities. The words in my previous post were pretty confusing lol You are right, in general the Puerto Rican, Dominican, African American and Albanian communities are nowadays probably far more impoverished than the Italian community is.
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Re: Reasons to join the Mob in 2014??
[Re: pizzaboy]
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05/12/14 05:59 AM
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cookcounty
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Not all Italian-Americans have the opportunity to go to college. As Philip Lombardo stated above: a fair amount of Italians in the USA are probably still working class people. The Italian-American working class population is the largest in New York City and probably will remain for years to come. Not anymore. Most Italian Americans have bolted for the suburbs. There are far more "working class" Latinos actually living in New York City today than Italians. Look no further than the 2010 census. But if you meant the "New York City metropolitan area," then your statement certainly has merit. And I agree with the rest of your post. It will be some time before assimilation completely diminishes the mob's recruiting pool  . or until they stop snorting crank and realize bosses give up their underlings
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Re: Reasons to join the Mob in 2014??
[Re: TheAustralian]
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05/12/14 08:57 PM
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LuanKuci
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if someone looks at non-hispanic white working class then Italians do stand out along with the Irish and the ever growing population hailing from Eastern Europe and the Balkans. It's not like it used to be (duh!) but it's still there and should not be underestimated. Implying that all of today's Italian-Americans are doctors, lawyers and PhDs is as discriminatory as saying they're all connected. Let's leave these sorts of racist remarks to Italian-American Anti-Defamation societies. 
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Re: Reasons to join the Mob in 2014??
[Re: TheAustralian]
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05/13/14 01:25 PM
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Fleming_Ave
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I guess if you're already a career criminal, becoming an associate of a family is a step up.
Last edited by Fleming_Ave; 05/13/14 01:25 PM.
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Re: Reasons to join the Mob in 2014??
[Re: TheAustralian]
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05/18/14 01:16 AM
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DonMega1888
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Re: Reasons to join the Mob in 2014??
[Re: Extortion]
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05/18/14 04:10 AM
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Moe_Tilden
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Well, if I had the opportunity..I would probably level as an associate. I mean it's pretty badass, let's be honest. Why would you want to be a degenerate scumbag and associate with mentally deranged people who would probably laugh if you caught fire? It's not badass. Being a boxer is badass.
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Re: Reasons to join the Mob in 2014??
[Re: Footreads]
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05/18/14 10:48 AM
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cornuto_e_contento
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There are plenty of ethnic areas here in NYC. There are plenty of poor people in those areas. The kids in these areas have a lot of unsupervised time on their hands. They think up a lot of ways to use that time. They play unorganized street sports like we did as kids. But that leaves them plenty of time to do other things.
Going to regular school is not the answer for them. It was not the answer for me. They have no rules at home. They don't want to have to follow rules in school.
I may have the record for the most days playing hooky when I went to school.
Some think we should push trade school rather then going to college. I think it is a great idea. But when these kids are of High school age they don't want to go to any school. Very true. Way too many people get college or university degrees and then they do not even use them. A lot more people attend a college or university and take classes either as a part-time or full time student and then just drop out or stop going to classes, and never graduate despite how they or their parents/guardians pay for the classes.  If people do not want to go to school like a highschool then they should just drop out and get a job, or as you wrote learn a trade or go to a trade/technical school.
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Re: Reasons to join the Mob in 2014??
[Re: TheAustralian]
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05/18/14 11:04 AM
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Footreads
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Well some people don't want to go to school drop out or dont drop out, and do other things like steal. Get money for something you stole it feels like found money. It can become addictive like a drug. Remember in Goodfellas Jimmy Burke just loved to steal he thought it was fun  that is an associate without a gang in the beginning. I guess he had no friends to steal withbasva kid. So he recruit some local kids to steal with him. That also happened in the Departed. Nickolson recruited poor kids in the neighbor to steal for him and with him. That is what happens every where. You can steal by yourself. You can steal with a friend. You can steal with a group of friends. Some people call that a gang or a crew. Some people don't want to follow others in gang. But if they ever come up with a good way to get money. But they need help to pull it off. That is when they join a gang. If it works and they are making money they can be led. When that happens who ever led the gang before will either become a follower or he will disappear. That is one of the reasons thieves can become killers.
Last edited by Footreads; 05/18/14 11:18 AM.
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