Do you believe that 9/11 and the collapse of the WTC buildings was an inside job, or not?

I do not believe for a second that building #7 collapsed because of "Debris fallout" or whatever BS they want to claim it was, since it does look like a controlled demolition.

The other buildings were not brought down by jet fuel either.

http://www.ae911truth.org/en/evidence.html

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I think you are out of your mind

I doubt it was an inside job. But I find it funny when these "experts" show up pointing at a blurred picture where you can barely see the plane itself and they're going into details telling how it's an army plane not a passenger one...

This is what I think about it. I am sleeping got in at 4 am that night before. My wife went to work. She worked at one of the twin towers. Then I get a call from one of my four adult children. Asking me about their mother. They tell me what happen I put on the TV. I asked them what time was the building hit. The second one had not been hit as yet. I told them your mother had to be on the train going there after it hit. So once she hears about she will come back home. I tried calling her cell did not work. Now I am getting calls from my other kids asking about there mother.

I had a daughter who lived in Manhattan back then. She was going to school at Columbia university. She is the communist I told you about living in Germany now.

I told her do not go down there and to stay in the school.

Every few munutes they called until my phone went out.

In my head I knew she was aLright. But it was now 4 pm and she still did not come home. So you don't know what you know. All you know was she is not home. Finally got home well after 5 pm.

There's alot of evidence to say yes but i just can't see it myself.

More questions than answers is all I'll say

No, it was a terrorist attaack.

I never understood the conspiracy theories about 9/11. What did it serve anyone who would have planned such a thing?

Lots of money for certain companies, starting a war, passing the Patriot act and making excuses for turning the United States into a police state or giving the fed gov't a reason to detain anyone for any reason they wanted, and other things.

I'm not claiming that the planes or drones did not crash into the WTC like some do but a lot of things that were released in the official report do not add up or make sense.

What evidence? Do you not mean there's alot of people claiming to be Engineering,Physics,Aviation,etc experts on the internet, and you succumb to their apparent expertise?

Cornuto has clearly made this thread because this site has alot of NY posters, and he knows some of these posters may have lost family members or at least had some sort of connection to these tragedies. It's nothing short of pathetic . You could at least have thrown in a few non troll posts, so you'd have something to fall back on but at this point it's pretty clear your only here to goad people into your sad existence.

And that's exactly why we're not taking the bait.

Actually no. I made this thread simply because the topic came up in another section of this site and people told me to discuss it here and not in the other forum section.

This site has people from different states, and even different countries and the majority of people are not from NYC or the NYC area.

There's a conspiracy for every tragedy. (9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon, ect.) People need to accept that there's evil in the world and that the Government's not responsible for everything.

But I do believe in the JFK conspiracy, there's definitely a lot more to it than we know.

When there is politics involved, anything is possible. I personally don't believe it was an inside job, but even if the government had nothing to do with this, they would be perfectly capable, both physically and morally. They would have lost more than they would have gained though in my opinion.

I'd like to clarify that the bolded parts are to Cornuto, not you Deniro.

My first cousin was in and around the WTC showing one of his dad's relatives lower Manhattan the weekend before the attacks. EVERYBODY in this area has a family member who works somewhere in lower Manahattan, and I don't see this as a troll thread.


Unless I'm mistaken....the report about 911 which was lead by former Gov. Kean had in plain English that the impact of the passenger plane should or would not have been enough to cause the tower to collapse.

Story was reported for two days and then I never saw or heard it ever mentioned again anywhere.


Objective historians or fans of history will note that the causes for the US entrance into the Spanish American war....and the Vietnam conflict were in fact proven to be false pretexts.

Anything is possible.

Exactly Nicky. I followed the Boston Marathon Bombing as it was happening, i saw the conspiracy theories appear before we even knew half of the facts.

And this is why this site has gone so far down hill.

Trutherism is a really insidious and evil claim: that the White House was “in” on 9/11 and that it either passively or actively aided and abetted the murder of 3,000 Americans and the attempted murder of tens of thousands more.

Depending on which version of Trutherism you buy into, you’d have to believe dozens or even thousands of government agents were in on the whole thing, too. Moreover, if this had been proven true, the only moral, legal, or rational response would have been not just impeachment and criminal prosecution, but literally the formal executions of the president, the vice president, and much of the us government.

But the morons pushing this garbage aren't that brave and merely post photos and post cutesy "anything is possible" garbage.

But keep in mind that this thread was started by a self-hating and sexually confused Mexican with a deep seeded hatred for the American government, even though he lives here.

pizza,

Decades and decades have passed, so almost impossible to form an informed opinion about the matter, but have you ever heard theories about FDR possibly knowing that Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked?

Theory says that only such a brazen terrorist attack could get the American people to get behind US involvement in the war.


The examples I brought up about false pretexts for US involvement in Vietnam, Cuba, and Iraq are pretty cut and dry which is the reason why there aren't any comments/responses to those points.
Easier to deflect .

FDR and the theory about Pearl Harbor hasn't been "proven" but there are some similarities between that case and the aftermath of 911.

Seriously, why not go live somewhere else? If you seriously believe the US government and its many thousand of agents committed mass murder against Americans during 9/11, then this country is beyond redemption and beyond evil. There is no sense having these "principled" beliefs if all you do is whine on a message board but maintain citizenship and carry on your life like you don't live in satan-america.

My guess is that you just externalize your personal failures onto the greater society. It's easy to explain your shortcomings in the context of living under the evil oppressive man then actually taking responsibility.

Silly. Absurd. Ridiculous. An insult to the thousands that died that day, to say that their government sacrificed them to pass the Patriot Act.

You do not know anything about me at all.

No I'm not sexually confused, and the only people who are confused are the people who do not understand bisexuality.

I do not have a hatred for the American government.

I do however know a lot about history, both in the United States and worldwide, and I do question things instead of just believing everything you hear in the media, history books, etc.

A lot of Americans do seem to romanticize 9/11 like this, and will claim that anyone who dares to question what happened then in NYC/N.VA/DC/PA is "insane", "silly", "ridiculous", "an insult to Americans", "9/11 victims/their families", etc.

Yes it was horrible and it's a tragedy; but a lot more innocent civilians in other countries we are at war or "conflict" with have died, lots of people who were in Manhattan that day or the next six months died of cancer or respiratory issues related to the demolition of the buildings that were designed to withstand a plane crashing into them, and I don't see you getting angry about that.

A lot of military personnel from the United States have died too but they know the risk for death is always there, and have signed up for it.

You better stop this intentional antagonizing of the Board's members. Stick with your topics' arguments and STOP BEING CONTRARY (as you've been warned before).

I am not being contrary. I was asking a rhetorical question, and simply giving a different perspective.

The cost of wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan are estimated at 225,000 civilian lives and up to $4 trillion in U.S. spending.

http://911scholars.org/

That's how you see it. I see it as you being contrary AGAIN. Just stop it. Consider this a formal warning.

You can argue your side and give different perspectives (which is a healthy thing). Just stop riling up others when doing so.