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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
[Re: dixiemafia]
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05/24/14 10:05 AM
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In this day and time it's way too hard to control a casino compared to days of past plus Philly I would imagine doesn't have the power in AC anymore anyways. I think after the Bruno ordeal I thought the West side took over AC? Through out the scarfo years, philly was still big in AC, they had the mayor in their pocket for awhile, made a fortune off of laying down concrete for the casinos(scarf inc), and their control over the influential hereu local 54 bartenders union. But by the time of the stanfa/merlino/natale years their influence inAC was all but over. Last significant OC bust in AC was the Borgata case involving the philly guys, but whatever action is going on there safe bet would be that its being run by the westside.
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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
[Re: philipbracci]
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05/24/14 05:17 PM
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I would wager a guess on private business's and local law enforcement and city officials.
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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
[Re: philipbracci]
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08/15/14 02:36 PM
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Crea and Barney have construction company's or are the man, behind the front man. They are both involved in the large construction jobs,I am not saying who owns what cos i never see it posted here. And i never see the names of the outfits posted .The last real big one or they had was the A.C. convention center and the Sheraton Hotel connected to it.(and others)
Philly don't have the mega construction outfits connected to them any more (as far as i know)
Philly does the gambling and shylocking here,and with that the prostitution or the extortion of the people connected to it. And the drugs,and the things that go with that.
There are a few N.Y. guys that were or are connected to the strip joints .
Nick jr. had, or had a front guy, that was operating one of those joints during the investigation of the Texas thing.(and before)It was on New York ave.(obviously a Lucchese joint)or and just associates.
There are a few big outfits gaining ground around here ,but they have not been in the news yet ,so i will not say the company's name..But they are no pushovers.....
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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
[Re: Serpiente]
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08/15/14 07:37 PM
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The convention Center and the hotel that is adjacent to it ,look and see who built them. I never really understood why someone like yourself couldn't be more precise and forthright about who you're talking about. I doubt you would be breaking some code, betraying some trust, or causing anyone actual harm by simply stating what companies Crea and Barney have. Or who built the AC Convention Center (Worth, which has Genovese ties). Or the NY-connected strip joints. Or the "big outfits" gaining ground. It's just an online forum so might as well throw it out there. No need to be coy. I mean, what's the point of saying "I'm here" but really nothing beyond that?
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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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08/15/14 09:34 PM
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The convention Center and the hotel that is adjacent to it ,look and see who built them. I never really understood why someone like yourself couldn't be more precise and forthright about who you're talking about. I doubt you would be breaking some code, betraying some trust, or causing anyone actual harm by simply stating what companies Crea and Barney have. Or who built the AC Convention Center (Worth, which has Genovese ties). Or the NY-connected strip joints. Or the "big outfits" gaining ground. It's just an online forum so might as well throw it out there. No need to be coy. I mean, what's the point of saying "I'm here" but really nothing beyond that? Though its his prerogative what info he divulges. He has no obligation to share any information. With a bunch of strangers on an internet forum. His comfort level may be different than yours and shouldn't be criticised for this. I'dve thought you'd respect that Ivy.
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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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08/16/14 04:36 AM
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The convention Center and the hotel that is adjacent to it ,look and see who built them. I never really understood why someone like yourself couldn't be more precise and forthright about who you're talking about. I doubt you would be breaking some code, betraying some trust, or causing anyone actual harm by simply stating what companies Crea and Barney have. Or who built the AC Convention Center (Worth, which has Genovese ties). Or the NY-connected strip joints. Or the "big outfits" gaining ground. It's just an online forum so might as well throw it out there. No need to be coy. I mean, what's the point of saying "I'm here" but really nothing beyond that? Ivy I get your point ,But there is always a chance that i could say something out of line.Not saying that that would have been ,but again ,like Sonny said i am the one that has that call. If i was quoting from internet or newspapers or FBI reports ,that would be a different story. But i am talking what i know or what i seen or from family ECT. I think you get the point. I do understand where u are coming from ,cos i see people say and reveal there source,I do not have that luxury. And please why does everything have to be like beating a dead horse, when having an interaction on here with you..
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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
[Re: merlino]
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08/16/14 05:05 AM
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AC is going down fast, just the other day the Revel shut down for good and its only a few years old and spectacular, I think as stated above w the Borgata case and that ending and then the overall dump that AC has become people may look elsewhere. The real crooks the state and local politicians will always be looking to make a buck down there Merlino : They are closing the gaming end of it ,There plan is to keep it up and running while a new buyer comes to the table. That place was doomed from the start. That industry you need a, or certain people to open and run a joint like that,especially a colossus like that.If Steve Winn comes in that place will rock. There are some places here that you can not get into .There is guy that grew up here in ducktown that is running one of the casinos . That place you can't get in there from Wednesday till Sunday evening. In that field it is who is running it ,not just build it and they will come.. The other Casinos that closed have other reasons for closing ,business,political.It will come out,but it is something like ,the state want some of the casinos to do well not all just to make it.So now you have this ,more will come out soon.. But the immediate surrounding area is a ghetto. We all know what it once was....
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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
[Re: philipbracci]
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08/16/14 05:54 AM
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I was in AC the other day. No one has control hahaha. Ducktown, unfortunately just like all the older italian neighborhoods had a demographic shift. Aka little tijuana, aka little PHO Thailand. We try to stay in Longport as much as possible. The dealers at the casinos are all asian cuz that's who is gambling. The landmark restaurants are still there, but some of them have different owners.
But the place is packed. Borgata is great. gotta have a reservation to any restaurant on a wednesday or thursday. The Revel looks great. It won't be on the market long Rumor has it that they are gonna close in September for enough time to get outta paying their HUGE (millions) Electric Bill to some company in Texas. Shake the creditors and possibly reopen with a different ownership.
As for the other closings, you guys should really listen to Serpeinte. He's always 100% right, when he ain't posting from the bar!! LOL. One of the casinos (can't remember) of the 3 set to close was operating in the black. It wasn't revel, and Trump is a fucking low life, so it's gotta be showboat. And I heard that Stockton College may be buying it up for use in their Hospitality School.
The problem with AC is oversaturation; in the town and surrounding areas. Jersey City may get gambling now; Philly has it, Upstate of NY. I think Serp is right; the state is dumping the ones that THEY don't want.
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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
[Re: philipbracci]
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08/16/14 07:51 AM
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Whats left in Atlantic city to control? Disgusting place looks like mad max bartertown
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
[Re: pizzaboy]
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08/16/14 08:36 AM
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@Ivy,
Stevie had control of at least half-a-dozen construction companies through 282 when that local was still a force. It's hardly a secret. I know that but I'm just wondering why not list them specifically? Though its his prerogative what info he divulges.
He has no obligation to share any information. With a bunch of strangers on an internet forum.
His comfort level may be different than yours and shouldn't be criticised for this. I'dve thought you'd respect that Ivy. Nobody is saying it isn't his prerogative or that he has an obligation. And, while it may not be his reason, I've often gotten the feeling that some are intentionally coy about things. You know, throwing out a teaser but then holding back so they can appear like they know some real "inside" stuff. Ivy I get your point ,But there is always a chance that i could say something out of line.Not saying that that would have been ,but again ,like Sonny said i am the one that has that call. If i was quoting from internet or newspapers or FBI reports ,that would be a different story. But i am talking what i know or what i seen or from family ECT. I think you get the point.
I do understand where u are coming from ,cos i see people say and reveal there source,I do not have that luxury.
And please why does everything have to be like beating a dead horse, when having an interaction on here with you.. If you mean your personal family, then I get the reason for you holding back. But otherwise, I don't think you being more specific would be "out of line." Like I said, you being more specific wouldn't exactly hurt anyone. Just saying.
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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
[Re: LittleNicky]
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08/16/14 09:45 AM
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Whats left in Atlantic city to control? Disgusting place looks like mad max bartertown Yes, to Mad Max But i do not know were you are from or what business you are in. Atlantic City is still the gambling capital next to Las Vegas. The money that comes through this town is right up there with any major city,and we are a small city. It is a cash cow no matter how it is looked at. And with that cow comes the under world,from drugs to woman to getting a helicopter to drop some of these guys off right in town... If you go two miles in any direction it is a different world. Margate, Longport and the Gold Coast of Linwood and Galloway is only a few miles from A.C. And you do not have to go that far , a half mile down beach are million dollar properties. It is almost like the state wants the ghetto here to have a spot for that class to supply the needs of the city... Very strange , but true.... The city did or state did not stop the trend, they embraced it. They also allowed thousand's of nice 7 bedroom 5 bath houses ,to be split up into six apartments.And so on and so on. The city had to change building codes and variants codes for this to happen. Things that make you say hmmmm ! ! !
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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
[Re: philipbracci]
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08/18/14 07:00 PM
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I was there last week...... Revel is still operating at this time. Places were packed. Definitely a lot of people still go there. Stayed on the boardwalk at the Atlantic Palace (New York Ave. is right there). Surrounding 3-4 blocks have strip clubs, & I saw 3 Asian massage parlors.
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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
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08/19/14 03:58 PM
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I was there last week...... Revel is still operating at this time. Places were packed. Definitely a lot of people still go there. Doesn't mean anything unless people are gambling. And I'm not saying they're not, just that looks can be deceiving in that industry. And the busiest gaming hotel in the world can't offset a slow casino. Gaming hotels are set up to feed you on one end and bleed you on the other. But they're not interchangeable. If people aren't gambling, it's good night Irene.
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Re: Atlantic City who has control?
[Re: pizzaboy]
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08/20/14 08:07 AM
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I was there last week...... Revel is still operating at this time. Places were packed. Definitely a lot of people still go there. Doesn't mean anything unless people are gambling. And I'm not saying they're not, just that looks can be deceiving in that industry. And the busiest gaming hotel in the world can't offset a slow casino. Gaming hotels are set up to feed you on one end and bleed you on the other. But they're not interchangeable. If people aren't gambling, it's good night Irene. PB : You are absolutely right on.They almost locked the doors on Monday. The dollar figure is a million dollars every 24 hours to keep the lights on and doors open... Right now they are not getting the players they need,let alone dead of winter.....
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