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Re: Anthony Thomas "Two Gun Tommy" DeSimone
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There is an interesting mug shot of a young henry hill in the beginning of the video. He was arrested in 1965 in jersey city nj. Anyone know what he got popped for in jersey city? Also says gotti himself killed him( desimone). I always thought it was tommy agro.
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Re: Anthony Thomas "Two Gun Tommy" DeSimone
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There is an interesting mug shot of a young henry hill in the beginning of the video. He was arrested in 1965 in jersey city nj. Anyone know what he got popped for in jersey city? Henry Hill & a few others from the Vario crew would go to Maryland, DC, North Carolina and bring back boatloads of cigarettes. There they could buy the cigarettes for say, a dollar a carton (just a number) and brng them to New York to sell for 5 dollars.
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Re: Anthony Thomas "Two Gun Tommy" DeSimone
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Belmont, the more I study the history of Organized Crime, the less I know. Why? Because most of these guys don't do interviews or keep diaries. Hill maintained it was Gotti and that it was revenge for Billy Batts. Only those who were there know for sure.
Gotti wasnt a hitman. he was a murderer but only in the sense that he ordered murders. The only murder that he was directly involved with was the mcbratney murder but he wasnt the shooter ralph galione was. I still think tommy agro was the actual killer although gotti may have been present but i doubt it Gotti was a street thug associate for 2 decades before he was made and started giving orders. Nobody was keeping scores back then. Most of the murders back then went unsolved as there weren't as many rats. Don't forget the Plate favor he did for Dellacroce
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Re: Anthony Thomas "Two Gun Tommy" DeSimone
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Belmont, the more I study the history of Organized Crime, the less I know. Why? Because most of these guys don't do interviews or keep diaries. Hill maintained it was Gotti and that it was revenge for Billy Batts. Only those who were there know for sure.
Gotti wasnt a hitman. he was a murderer but only in the sense that he ordered murders. The only murder that he was directly involved with was the mcbratney murder but he wasnt the shooter ralph galione was. I still think tommy agro was the actual killer although gotti may have been present but i doubt it Gotti was a street thug associate for 2 decades before he was made and started giving orders. Nobody was keeping scores back then. Most of the murders back then went unsolved as there weren't as many rats. Don't forget the Plate favor he did for Dellacroce Possibly. However the Plate murder was most likely committed by Willie boy Johnson and maybe Angelo Ruggiero, I doubt Gotti was involved other than ordering them to whack him. At that time(August 1979) Gotti was acting capo so I don't think he was getting his hands dirty
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Re: Anthony Thomas "Two Gun Tommy" DeSimone
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Henry Hill was a drunk and a liar. If you listen to his appearances on the Stern show over the years, he comes up with outrageous shit when he's wasted. I wouldn't take Henry's word for it, especially those years after he became famous and had really no new stories to tell. His last appearance was pretty depressing. Wasted, looked generally unhealthy, slurring every word. I think that was the one where he was confronted by "Spider's" sister. it made for great radio, but pretty morbid at the same time. Kind of wish Stern would get some other former mobsters on his show. Maybe one whose less of a hopeless drunk.
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Re: Anthony Thomas "Two Gun Tommy" DeSimone
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Henry Hill was a drunk and a liar. If you listen to his appearances on the Stern show over the years, he comes up with outrageous shit when he's wasted. I wouldn't take Henry's word for it, especially those years after he became famous and had really no new stories to tell. His last appearance was pretty depressing. Wasted, looked generally unhealthy, slurring every word. I think that was the one where he was confronted by "Spider's" sister. it made for great radio, but pretty morbid at the same time. Kind of wish Stern would get some other former mobsters on his show. Maybe one whose less of a hopeless drunk. I remember in the early years he called in drunk and boasted about killing people personally. Then the next day he calls in sober asking Howard to explain on air that it was all bullshit because he was trying to get the custody of his children back. I remember the kids lived with a black family and they had fun goofing on Henry for that. When Howard asked him why he claimed he had killed people, his answer was "I'm a liar."
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