1 registered members (1 invisible),
1,028
guests, and 12
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums21
Topics43,336
Posts1,085,987
Members10,381
|
Most Online1,182 1 hour ago
|
|
|
Re: Why Didn't Big Paul Protect Bruno?
[Re: mulberry]
#787691
07/07/14 11:19 AM
07/07/14 11:19 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 8,534
IvyLeague
|

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 8,534
|
Well wasn't Bruno opposed to the casinos? I wonder if knowing there were more amenable people in Philly at the time they, figured that with Gambino dead maybe Castellano would be more open to a profitable regime change? That was a rumor that he was opposed to getting involved in the casinos, but it was bullshit. The mob back then was all about using unions to extort businesses and get contracts for their businesses. Why would Bruno not allow it? More likely he was killed because of his own greed and the greed of family members over drugs. He didn't let his own guys deal, but was getting street taxes from others outside the family who were dealing. The same thing happened with Castellano, allowing certain crews to deal and taking money from them, while being outraged over the Bergin Crew dealing. George Freselone talked about it in his book Blood Oath. He said it had been the belief by many that Bruno was killed because he was keeping the NY families out of AC. Freselone said it was the other way around - Bruno was killed (by Caponigro) because he was letting them in. I find it believable because, after all, Bruno reportedly didn't want his guys involved in the drug trade despite taking drug money from certain people (much like Castellano). Caponigro resented this, as well as the AC thing, because he saw Bruno as weak, not capitalizing on potential money-making endeavors, and allowing other families into what was traditionally Philadelphia LCN territory. By the way, as Freselone also mention in his book, prior to the legalization of casino gambling in Atlantic City, the mob's involvement with HEREU Local 54 basically involved Scarfo and his guys using the Local as leverage to shake down bars and restaurants in town for money to avoid the union organizing their employees.
Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
|
|
|
Re: Why Didn't Big Paul Protect Bruno?
[Re: Iceman999]
#787754
07/07/14 03:19 PM
07/07/14 03:19 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 341
Iceman999
OP
Capo
|
OP
Capo
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 341
|
I just don't get the whole Caponigro thing. These guys know the rules. They know you don't kill a boss without Commission approval with impunity. This is why I find the idea of Caponigro up and arranging to kill Bruno on the ok a couple of Genovese soldiers weird.
Last edited by Iceman999; 07/07/14 03:19 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Why Didn't Big Paul Protect Bruno?
[Re: Iceman999]
#787790
07/07/14 06:06 PM
07/07/14 06:06 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 294 Merica
NickyWhip
Capo
|
Capo
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 294
Merica
|
It's been pretty well documented from George Anastasia, leonetti, as well as nick caramandi. Funzi Tieri lost a sit down to caponigro, which was a lot money. I'm sure Nicky scarfo had bobby manna's ear in jail about Bruno's shortcomings. The Genovese saw an opportunity and capitalized on it.
I've read those books a few times and read as much as I can about scarfo. He probably knew something was going to go down; or at least sensed it. But he didn't have any direct involvement.
Boss of tha toilet!
|
|
|
Re: Why Didn't Big Paul Protect Bruno?
[Re: Iceman999]
#787793
07/07/14 06:40 PM
07/07/14 06:40 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 24
Phriction
Wiseguy
|
Wiseguy
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 24
|
I just don't get the whole Caponigro thing. These guys know the rules. They know you don't kill a boss without Commission approval with impunity. This is why I find the idea of Caponigro up and arranging to kill Bruno on the ok a couple of Genovese soldiers weird. Agreed. Bananas thought he had it all worked out with NY and that he would get the Commission votes to be new boss. There had been grumblings about Ange the past couple years, and Caponigro made his move before someone else would...keep in mind the geographic element as well...Caponigro's Newark day-to-day dealings were far removed from Bruno's South Philly. Bananas was at Cous' in Philly right before getting whacked telling guys how everything would be straightened out in a few days...I am still surprised this wily gangster fell for the okie-doke and thought he could murder a boss without Commission approval.
|
|
|
Re: Why Didn't Big Paul Protect Bruno?
[Re: Iceman999]
#788845
07/13/14 07:08 AM
07/13/14 07:08 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 235
NE1020
Made Member
|
Made Member
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 235
|
In 'Mafia Prince' it mentions that Pete Casella was friendly with a high-ranking Genovese captain who asked Gigante to give him a pass.
I always assumed that they killed Caponigro and then started beating and stabbing him after so that when the body is found he looks tortured of course to send a message. Seems strange they would actually torture him in order to teach him a pointless message.
Last edited by NE1020; 07/13/14 07:28 AM.
|
|
|
|