Is it correct that Jackie the Kid has taken over as boss of Detroit? How many made guys are left in that family

Depends who you ask. But if you ask here, it's gonna get colorful .

Some people think the family is extinct and others think its still viable?

That's pretty much it. If you put Tocco or Detroit into the search feature, you'll see what I'm talking about.

I'm from the Bronx. What the Hell do I know about Michigan?

I'm from Scotland, what the hell do I know about Detroit? Hence why i'm asking

Well it won't get as messy as a NY vs chicago thread but let's see how this pans out.
I'm also from NY btw, so I have no info either. Sorry...

Scott D is our most respected Detroit Area poster and according to him the young Jackie took over and they have around 30 made guys, I personally believe him but its highly debated just about everywhere

I personally think the Detroit mob is a tight nit viabley structured family , I know some on here think that a lack of prosecutions pretty much means the family is extinct , but I don't believe that at all , it may well be true with the majority of the smaller families but I don't believe it to be true with the Detroit mob . I think they r a really well set up organised family , they r set up pretty much in the same way as the genovese family , ruling panels insulating the administration

Ruling Panels?

Jack Tocco ran the family for 30+ years with Giacalone his front/street whatever for half that.

You dont get MORE of a formal structure than that.

So are these guys, if viable, even making any cash anymore? Hard to fathom some mid level gambling is worth a RICO

They had Jackie the kid as a street boss and theyhad buffers including Anthony tocco , Vito giacalone and Antonio ruggiero insulating the administration

Ruling panels are generally 'in place of' (Due prison, death) a formalised structure, not in conjuction with or in use as a buffer system.

May seem semantic but its an important distiction that needs pointing out.

Good point sonny , I'm just stating that the admn was insulated hence maybe the lack of prosecutions , not the fact that a lack of prosecutions meant the family was not viable

Jack Giacalone has been the boss of Detroit for a year or two before Jack Tocco passed on. Before that Giacalone was the street/acting boss for Detroit. Still a family with nearly 30 members, but less then 20 members still fully or semi active Imo.

I'm from Detroit and I probably know as much as the guy from Scotland. Anyways, they are definitely around but in my opinion they must stick to lower key activities like gambling, extorting the strip clubs, some white collar activities. If they were involved heavily in drugs or riskier activities there would be more prosecutions. Also, the fact that it is a small group of guys (with lots of blood ties) has helped keep them safe.

Detroit is so low key it hard to know, but with jack gone we may get more information.

That's not strictly true Sonny, Joey Massino kept a ruling panel in place while he was still a boss out on the street. I can think of other examples of a ruling panel being in place to protect the boss.

The attached article at the first of the thread says that Tucco's ceremony for being made boss was photographed by the FBI. Has anyone seen these photos?

Sorry wrong thread- was referring to thread about Tucco passing away

Yes he officially took over not too long ago, good thing too. Tocco died yesterday, I will see if I can find a chart for you.

Here is a tidbit on the Inauguration

Underworld sources confirm that an inauguration ceremony for newly-appointed Detroit mafia boss Jack (Jackie the Kid) Giacalone, 63, has taken place since the beginning of the year in a Motor City restaurant, similar to the one that was held for his predecessor Giacomo (Black Jack) Tocco, 87, at a posh hunting lodge near Ann Arbor exactly 35 years ago last month.

More than one highly-placed street source, tells The Mob Insider that the ceremony, attended by all the crime family’s capos and high-ranking members, took place at an eatery in Eastern Market, which seems appropriate considering the region’s gangland-rich history and the Giacalones’ roots there specifically, both dating back more than 100 years.

Reports of Tocco, the longest-tenured LCN don in the United States, stepping aside and tabbing Jackie the Kid his official replacement – following a two-year stint as acting boss –, surfaced in the spring.

Locations mentioned as possible venues for the inauguration were Vivio’s Bar & Grill and The Roma Café or both.

Here you go...

Detroit LCN 2014

Administration

Boss – Jack “Jackie the Kid/The Bathrobe” Giacalone
Underboss – Anthony “Chicago Tony/Tony Lop/The Loli-Pop” La Piana
Consiglieri – Anthony “Tony Pal/The Butterfly” Palazzola
Street Boss – Peter “Specs/Blackie” Tocco
Counselor emeritus: Giacomo “Black Jack” Tocco(Deceased), Joseph "Joe Hooks" Mirabile, Dominic "Uncle Dom" Bommarito

Capos

David “Davey Donuts” Aceto
Joseph “Joey Jack/Joe Vine” Giacalone
Joseph “Joe the Hood” D’Anna
Paul “Big Paulie” Corrado
Antonino “Tony the Extermintor” Ruggirello (coming out of retirement for short-term stint until La Piana names an official successor as boss of his crew, the former Meli crew)

“Soldiers”

Anthony “Tony Z” Zerilli (inactive/shelved)
Vito Tocco
Salvatore “Mops/Junior” Tocco
Jack “Little Jackie/Miami Jack” Tocco, Jr. (part of the year in FL)
Anthony “Nino/Smitty” Tocco
Anthony “Little Tony/Little Tawncy” Tocco, Jr. (part of the year in FL)
Joseph “Joe T” Tocco
Peter “Fat Pete” Corrado
Peter “Baby Bull” Corrado
Paul “Cousin Paulie/the Fixer” Corrado
Anthony “Nino” Corrado
Dominic “Chicago Dom” Corrado (CHI-NW IN)
Joseph “Joe White” Giacalone (Flint)
Jack “Jackie the Nose” Giacalone (FL)
Vincent “Vinnie Jack” Giacalone
Dominic “Fat Dom” Rubino
Peter “Petey Boy” Messina
Joseph “Jo Jo” Messina
Joseph "Joe the Clipper" Barbara, Jr. (semi-retired, sometimes looked to for counsel by admin)
Dominic “Big Dom” Vivio (shelved-PITT)
Frank “Frankie the Bomb” Bommarito (semi-active)
Robert “Bobby the Animal” La Puma
Gerard Di Michelle
Sam Ventilmiglia (TX)
Anthony Rugerio
Patrick Rugerio
Antonio “Toto” Ruggirello
Anthony “Little Tony Long” Cimini, Jr.
Anthony “Little Tony Razz” Randazo Jr,
Girolamo “Mimmo” D’Anna
Salvatore “Sparky” Palazzola, Jr.
Vincenzo “Vinnie Meatballs” Bronzino
John “Johnny Bananas” Sciarotta
Joseph “Joe D” Di Stefano
Eugene “Genie Boy” Baratta
Joseph “Joey the Trash Man” Tringali
Isodoro “Teddy San Diego” Matranga (CAL)
Peter “Pete the Clown” Leonardo
Louis “Butch” Stramaglia
Greektown Mike Katranis (in charge of Greektown)
William "Billy Lee" Loiacano (FL-inactive)
Joseph "Joe Gravel" Gargalino (FL-Retired)

What a bunch of low-life garbage. I wonder how there peanut-butter pretzel rackets going?

Was this an attempt at comedy?

You might want to put a bit more thought into it before you hit enter next time.

Incorrect. Joe Massino never had a ruling panel whilst out on the street.

Yeah, I never heard of him having a panel.

That is more the Genovese forte.

There were 29 members cited back in the big 1996 bust. 5 years later, in 2001, one article cited 30 members. So it's highly unlikely they have 40, 50, or more members today like some charts show. Even if they have been making new members in recent years, they almost certainly have not been able to keep up with the 20+ members or possible members who have died since 2000. If you look at the cases, what few there have been, what's left of the family is into bookmaking and some loansharking. Possibly some card games still. As well as whatever legit businesses they have. I've seen nothing about extortion of strip clubs, let alone the street tax that led to the 1996 case. And they have virtually no involvement in drugs. No labor union racketeering that I can see either.


The mafia has a strict hierarchical structure, law-enforcement officials said, and it has proven capable of finding new soldiers. Even after imprisonment of senior leadership, it survives, and in some places thrives, though most experts agree that its operations are now largely confined to its traditional bases in the Northeast and Chicago.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704115404576096392318489246

So, Scott Burnstein...who has written several critically acclaimed books and has done articles and videos for reputable news sites, just made up some names and put them on a list out of nowhere?

I forgot, Ivyleague of the internet is the end all be all.

No, he didn't make up names. But I do think he compiles these charts which include guys who it really hasn't been verified are made. In other words, he includes not only members but just about anyone who could possibly be a member. It's why his charts have varied so much going back to 2006. I figure he does the best he can with what he has to work with, and he does provide info that we wouldn't have otherwise, but his throwing every name up on those charts (showing anywhere from 30-60 members) has led to a lot of confusion and arguments. It seems those who want Detroit to have 40 or 50 members are quick to put all their eggs in the Burnstein basket and ignore everything else.

This must have been what Pizzaboy warned me about, I've opened Pandora's box.

I happen to know that they inducted 20 guys or so since 2000. Jackie the kid is a no nonsense kind of guy with a lot of people around him, especially the guys in Canada. If anybody tries to challenge him he'll give the nod to the hitters in Winsdor and it's over. The Florida, Texas, and California guys have all fallen into line already and mark my word are sending up very nice envelopes to John. The old man was sharp but was getting a little senile in his last few years and he knew that if he didn't give up power to John before he croaked their would be a war with a lot of bodies being left out onto the streets. Lets just hope the government doesn't waste their time on some respectable Italians and actually goes after the real criminals in congress instead.