Anybody knows about any young mafia members coming up in the hierarchy? I am looking for pictures and stories of examples of, say Chris Moltisanti, Bevilaqua, Aprile Jr. etc, etc.

Any cliques except from the Bath Avenue Crew?

Thanks.

well, maybe not many recruits anymore. after all, look
at the heat.
the Lcn, now look at it, stoolies walking around unharmed, and the real kicker a boss [massino] who eats birdseed,

a made guy can trust no one nowadays. who needs it.

I didn't understand everything you wrote
But as far as trust goes, a made guy could never really depend on anybody from the beginning? I mean, fathers, brothers, siblings and best friend killed each other. I kind off doubt that a father would kill his own child or brother out of loyalty to the Mafia codes today, so really guys are more dependable today then previous, if anybody agrees?

There aren't that many plots on raging a war on the streets to become boss, nearly 20 years now, If am not mistaking..

what I was getting at was, theres no penalty for turning stoolie today. half the mob are stoolies. and with rico going strong, it's much harder today than it was, to be a made guy.

and young guys see this and nobody wants to be in Lcn anymore.

Is English your first language, Johnny? I'm being serious because I don't quite understand all of your questions and I'd like to answer them as best I can .

LCN circa 2015

This is Giuseppe "Joey Headband" Accardi from the Morris Park Crew. Photo was taken during FBI surveillance.

That might be true if Morris Park wasn't like 75 percent Albanian today .

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Well Dominick cirillo allowed his son to be killed bc mafia protocol.

And there has been a huge war in Montreal for leadership.

LOL!

As of today if a young guy let's say in his 20's wants to be in the mob where should he start?

At the paychiatrist's office.

Botz probably being a runner in a gambling book or going to collect a debt for his grandfather or a old connected guy. Get his attention a d respect and start meeting other and older connected guy. It always start with a old made guy using the younger guy to do the dirty or bullshit work and one day the young guy will have someone do it for him. Example look at the Colombo in the 90tys they used 20ty something's to do all the killings except for scarpa and they all got and inducted and then a lot flipped. They killed a cop for a 60 yr old Joel eagerly. They killed underboss wild bill ect.

There must be still young guys in their 20s hanging around trying to get noticed by connected guys. There'll always be young criminals who'll still view it as a goal or aspiration to become involved with LCN even in it's current state. The Wannabees and knuckleheads etc

Of course. There's no accounting for laziness and stupidity. The mob will always survive in one form or another because criminal minded people will always be around. But the face of the mob is what will eventually change (and I'm speaking for the American mob, things are obviously different in Italy where it's a much bigger part of the cultural fabric).

It would be more interesting if there was some more information on wannabe mobsters of the 90's generation.

Botz...I'm not familiar with any books that address 90's wannabes, but if you read about the 80's wannabes, I think you'll learn all you need to know about the modern mob...see Jr. Gotti or Skinny Joey Merlino and their crews for a glimpse into what has become a narcissitic microcosm of the larger society...the mob always mirrors society..as society has grown softer, so has the mob.

thats true and funny

They look like a homo convention, not tough guys

They look like a bunch of lesbians who are at a party at Ellen Degeneres house.

OK, so it's agreed that there is a lack of talent in the younger generation and it seems that eventually most of the street rackets may go to newer immigrant crime groups (possibly). But what about the white collar rackets like the unions? If you have let's say Genovese guys that control certain unions or have influence, will these new immigrant groups be able to come in and take over? Or in this case, does the mob have someone to hand it down to. I'm assuming you don't need a "neighborhood" or "street presence" to keep influence in a union. I could be wrong as I have zero experience with unions. Maybe Pizzaboy or others can offer some insight. Thanks.

The union influence has diminished a great deal since the '90s. But the Genovese and Luccheses families in particular still have strongholds in certain areas (The Laborers and the Waterfront obviously at the forefront). But I expect those strongholds to also diminish over time. Not any time soon, but over time nonetheless. And I think when they're gone, they're gone (much like what happened with most of the Teamster locals).

So in my opinion, long story short and all that, the unions that are still under the mob's control will stay there but their grip will slowly diminish. And when they're out of the unions, I don't see an other immigrant group picking up the pieces. Because as a guy who dedicated 25 years of service to the Teamsters and organized labor, it pains me a great deal to admit that unions are slowly dying.

And article posted this week on the current state of the NY Mafia, claims that the Gambino's control the piers. Take it with a grain of salt.

https://www.the-newshub.com/stories/whatever-happened-to-the-new-york-mafia-1

thanks for sharing SinC!
I also wanted to ask you guys about your opinion of this article
http://breakshotblog.blogspot.de/2014/11/domenico-cefalu-and-gambinos-today.html
especially about the part were he claims that the gambinos are still a force in the concrete and construction..

100% Agree. Been a member of the Teamsters for 17 yrs. I'm only 42, so I have 13 years too go. If they still have 25 at 55. In Philadelphia we are dying a slow death.

I took my 25 when I was 47. I chose to freeze my pension because at the time I only would have gotten about 3/4s. I just turned 55 last month. If you do all of your homework first you'll be fine.

I was a member of Local 813 for 25 years, a steward for 10 and a business agent for the last 7. I took early retirement in 2006. If you need to be steered in the right direction just let me know .

I'm no authority on the issue but I think it's fair to say the Gambino's are still big in construction, Domenico Cefalu's cousin, Dominic 'Big D' Cefalu who is a captain is very high up in a massive Montreal based construction company.

Much of what you said, though often repeated by many, is false. First, "half the mob" are not stoolies. People just get that image because those that do flip get so much attention. But even today the number of guys who turn is relatively small compared to those that don't. Second, the fact that the families in New York have been able to keep their membership totals relatively steady for the last 20+ years demonstrates there are still plenty of willing guys who want to be made.



The lack of quality in the new members, as compared to the old, is certainly true. Though not necessarily across the board. But the idea that most of the street rackets would be taken over by newer immigrant groups (the "ethnic succession" theory in organized crime) that got it's start 40 years ago has been proven largely untrue in New York. One of the earliest to float this predict this was Franic Ianni, who believed that blacks would take over the mob's rackets at the street level. Fast-forward through the years and, with each new ethnic group, you'd have OC experts and even some in law enforcement predicting they would "take over." - the Hispanics, Chinese, Motorcycle Gangs, Russians, Albanians, etc.

One of the more interesting books on this subject is The New Ethnic Mobs by William Kleinknecht. Through most of his book he tries to build a case for the new groups supplanting the Italian mob. Yet, in the last chapter he almost does a complete 180. The Chinese are the #1 group he pushes but, in the end, he admits that - except for the drug trade - they will probably never go beyond the rackets of their own insular communities. One thing he does point out, and I give him credit for it because it goes against the cliched thinking, is that many people underestimated the tenacity with which the Italian mob would maintain it's presence in many of it's traditional street rackets. Wherever there is still a viable mob family left, it remains the dominant force when it comes to bookmaking and loansharking. The mob has been marginalized in the drug trade but the New York families are still big players in narcotics.



While I agree with you about the overall decline in mob influence in the unions, as well as the decline of the union movement in general, there are still some IBT Locals in New York that are interesting to watch; even in recent years. From 2000 to the present, I've counted at least 20 former Local 813 officials and/or members who were booted for their ties to the the LCN, corruption, etc. There's also been several booted from Local 295 at JFK since 2000. Local 282 has continued to have problems in recent years. Local 812 and 1181 are others.



You'll notice that article says the Gambinos control the piers in Brooklyn and Staten Island. That's traditionally been their territory while the Genovese had Manhattan and New Jersey. All of the New York families, except for the Bonannos, are still deep into construction and related fields. Unlike the wholesale food markets, the Javits Center, or even waste hauling, the government was never able to institute the same kinds of industry reforms in the construction trades. It's simply too big and too diverse to remove or at least weaken the mob like they did in other industries.

Isn't that what I implied, Ivy? I made that part of the quote bold for you. I said most of the Teamster locals.

As far as your count of 813 members who "brought reproach upon themselves," that number sounds about right. I've been out since the Spring of 2006, and at that point there were still about a dozen open cases pending. Some of those guys were guilty, but some of them honestly got railroaded. And you know I'm not a mob apologist, but I'm glad I put in my papers when I did. Because it was honestly turning into a witch hunt .