That Sean Penn movie is so dumb. That Spanish kid rapes his his girl to go to prison to avenge his bro. Then there that lil Jew kid who blew up a bowling alley strange movie. When I was in prison it was crisis in the church scandal and pedi priest were coming in dearly it was sick n gross. So many pedo s back then.

The Spanish guy's a great character actor, though. Esai Morales. He ended up on "NYPD Blue" for a few years.

The old Spanish guy who ran the juvie is a famous actor to I think and bla k guy was NFL. The lil nerd mad his boom box a bomb. The c.o. from that great Steven king movie with the white guy framed for murder and black Jesus.

I know someone that is not quite a friend but more than an acquaintance, who did 4 1/2 years out of a 6 (or maybe 7) year sentence for shooting someone in the leg in a biker club dispute. He told me the exact same thing. Dreams he is still there, and wakes up expecting to still be there sometimes.

Me, worst I ever had was 4 hours in the drunk tank. That's enough for me. It wasn't the lack of freedom or the other degenerates in the tank, it was that they didn't let me have a harmonica to play.

Any italians in detention center in Brooklyn?

I've only been for visits...give the guys a free peep. However, guards made me dress down the following visits. Jackwads.

disturbing story.....dude got jumped, robbed.....other prisoners took cell phone pics of him kneeling with a leash around his neck and emailed the pics

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/cell-phone-photo-sheds-light-on-prison-culture-and/nkhyc/


new jacks surrendering/
come home not remembering/


made bail with different size kicks on/

Not a nice picture, but Im a bit torn here...Ive always thought punishment should take place in prison (not by other prisoners mind you)-simply being in prison and loss of liberty isnt a punishment for a lot of guys in there. Take away things like weight training where they can bulk up - runnning machines etc no probs, take away every single piece of entertainment and make it some place you WANT to avoid. These guys in the pic dont really look too worried, except obv the victim, I dont know what he's guilty of.

Too many times though I hear prison isnt a big deal. I know a few prison officers in the uk, 1 of which thinks extreme measures will never work, it just makes criminals harder. Im not so sure....i want prison to be as extreme as a society can possibly make it so it becomes a deterent, not a rehab programme. If society needs to then deal with the issues that person might suffer as a result afterwards, then fine, its better than not really punishing them in the first place. Yes there are some who can be rehabilitated and any good programme should identify that asap, but repeat offenders etc should be whipped daily and fed bread and water, no exaggeration, because they might be on youre doorstep next and tell me then how you feel. I dont care about the chin stroking, PC brigade who bleat on about human rights, simply because when you commit an extreme crime that offends another's human rights you deserve extreme punishment and lose youre "human rights".

fergie,

dude in the picture has multiple strong arm and car jacking charges...he's not a non violent first time offender. I'm gonna assume most people in jail or prison aren't first timers either, and that the people who posted about their firsthand experiences on this forum aren't first timers either.

From what I've read...unless the crime fits a state mandatory minimum guideline and is serious offense...first time offenders can get literal slap on wrist. probation...counseling,etc

I don't know what ideal punishment would be for convicts, but story was disturbing because we all figure it's beyond chaos in jail but seeing glimpses into it are shocking.

I can tell you for a fact that you can get locked up for your first arrest, even a non violent crime. However, unless you're an idiot, you will be put in with the low security risks where shit like that barely ever happens..

Exactly. You reap what you sow. You're housed with like-minded offenders. If you're in for a DWI, you'll never have to worry about running into Charles Manson.

thanks, black

When I read about pre-trial intervention programs and such I figured that , with a clean record, everybody is eligible for that or another alternative unless it's drugs,guns, or other serious offenses.

What you said makes sense.

I'm just old enough to remember the original Scared Straight program, and I never want to see any parts of jail.

The thing about intervention programs is they don't always help you depending on how many counts you might have gotten. If you get busted selling weed to a cop a few times, it's essentially the same crime but they hit you with 3 charges and tack on every other charge they can dig up from the books as a scare tactic.
The end result is often them giving you a minimal sentence if they can't qualify multiple charges for the program they say they offer. In this day and age, I think it's rare to get hit with just one charge. They'll throw as many as possible to get you to take a plea and be done with it. But as PB clarified, you get put in with like minded people. If you're selling weed, you'll probably be with people in the low risk unit unless you become a fool in jail and wanna show how tough you are in the holding tank while you're being processed. All the violence you hear about is generally done by violent people onto other violent people who found out they weren't so tough when they got locked up

So whats bad about prison then if you're a low level dope dealer who isn't violent? Apart from loss of liberty, nothing really. Take 10 lashes a day instead of 40, that'll make you think about dealing or working. I cant understand why it doesn't happen in prisons, the majority of guys take it easy when they get sent down and we pick up the tab for it all.

If you're dog shits on the carpet, do you give it a biscuit?

@ferg,

I saw this sheriff on one of the jail shows on tv, you'll like this guy

Joe Arpaio of Arizona

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gzlPOmaWeU

I was in jail for about four hours.

So no.

Give me that Green Bay hat.

What about the holding cell though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdG34y8kUyc

Because of Footread's jokes about Johnny Depp's small hands..I couldn't help but notice that CB has little baby feet.

exactly

i may have played a game of whist in a prison. or hearts. for some ramen noodles.

you want your cornbread.

can't have it..I'm from new york city...gonna be consequences and repercussions

Jangle Leg ... Jangle Leg.

Don't be scurred. Nuh uh.

I continue to amaze you. Don't I, Gets?

Ok I'm lost

Edit-- I think I'm not lost anymore. Life with eddie Murphy?

Pizzaboy,


the most interesting man in the world..



I told myself the day you quoted Bernie Mac...I'd flip out...so I'm flipping out.

cousin did 6 in allenwood. I never did enough to matter 2 days holding..lol

When I was young but I got a chance to join the military to avoid that fate.

16 months for a highspeed.

What about the holding cell though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdG34y8kUyc

Because of Footread's jokes about Johnny Depp's small hands..I couldn't help but notice that CB has little baby feet.

My 5 yr old grandson Henry had bigger feet that the guy in the suit.

Look at how much room there is in that holding cell. In Brooklyn the cell is Hugh and they are full with prisoners.

No place to sit they piss in the water fountain. No air its a zoo.grt pulled in on a Friday night your in for the weekend. The guards are all cock suckers. I would love to be in the holding cell in that video.

You know, Manson has actually needed protection in prison because he's the size of a leprechaun. He's very wary about everything that's going on around him so every time he senses danger he halfheartedly assaults a CO so he gets put in solitary. In the 70's he was even punked by an AB member. He tried to get AB to protect him by using his girls to lure them in, but then when the AB members started marrying his girls he tried to put a stop to it. He had more than one physical confrontation with them.