The way things are today? You never know. Look at Merola and Campos.

But back then, when Alite was coming up? The '80s and early '90s? No way in Hell. The Albanians and the Italians were still getting to know each other in the city back then. It would take quite some time to develop that kind of trust.

If Alite claims they were going to make him back then he's full of shit. But to be fair, I've never heard that claim from him, so I don't want to jump on the guy.

PB, i just sent you a new pm...

This buck sucked. Bb posters im telling you this book sucks I can't believe George put his name to it. You no a slept on George book mob father. That guy tommy Del's ex wife and kids just blast him. His wife says how he get made he's half polish which I don't no how scarfo let slide. Really puts you there. Anyhow. Alite says happy hooker caller warren sapp who got canned by NFL network today was a great valet tipper. I heard so many accounts on sports talk radio and sports blogs sapps a scum bag. Alite keeps us guessing.

Another thing not explained in the book why is Ronnie one arm indicted in Tampa he's running the show. What's murders did him and alite get indicted in Tampa for? Fuck its your book print your indictment. You get nothing. There's not.even a picture of alite in Tampa. Okay I guess he shook down hi's old college roommate who taught him the ins and o
uts of the valet shit good friend alite is. Which the mafia was doing around Boston and I'm sure elsewhere earlier he wasn't the pioneer. Massino got life from valet I think. It started the domino effect.

Save your money posters. Georges last gangster or any of his shit is better. Just read his free big trial.net its far more interesting in alites book. I thought alite was in on the Charles carniglia and others plot to kill Jr nop. That guy Kevin McMahon had more or less a lot more in the plot. Yaeh maybe once Vicky gotti had carmines sons john Jr knew that any type of friendship with alit was dead. Maybe alite didn't think so. And he never thought off that in his book. Nieces and nephews threw alite out of johns circle that's probably it

He says he told everyone to call him " Johnny A" . Then he would beat up anyone who used his name. If they wanted to refer to Alite they were supposed to point to their bicep. Thats kind of a rip off on chin gigante , pointing to their chin. Whatever, i think alite is a mad man to be honest.

Damn, PB I didn't know about these guys. They both capos in the Gambino family and not with Italian heritage? How the hell did they get made, let alone become capos... were they such huge earners?
Also I wanted to ask you by message but I'm gonna ask here (I know all those questions you're probably a little annoyed) are there any other non Italians made that you know of? Any of them with the Westside guys?




And so did Joe Massino by asking people to point to their ear. This is nothing new, I bet it was done by the Italians before Chin anyway.

According to Alite, Shortly after Gotti Sr became boss, he sent Alite to tell Joe Gallo, that he was to retire and step down.

21 Capos in the family, over 200 soldiers, and gotti had about half a dozen non made guys in his inner circle, yet he chose to send alite? cmon!

They were both acting captains. Both massive earners, Campos got made after making all that money with Tore & Richie Martino in the porn scam. Martino got him his button. Merola's name used to be Knapik but changed it to Merola He's meant to be a very serious guy though, close to Taccetta.

By the way they are half-italian you know. Think you only need to be half Italian to get made.

As for the Westside, I bet they and all the other families have half-Italians. Someone said Conrad Ianniello, who is a captain in the Genovese family, is half German. Not sure how true that is.

I noticed a lot of genovese guys have some strange sounding names.

It seems like as long as you have an Italian surname you can get made, which begs the question why guys Henry Hill didn't just adopt their mother's surnames.

Is Alite Albanian as in Albania/Kosovo/Montenegro Albanian or is he Arbereshe?
Because when it comes to Arbereshe it wouldn't surprise me if there have been people made before in the Mafia who were part or even completely Arbereshe. They have Italian surnames, are culturally almost completely Italian and most of them wouldn't probably described themselves as "Albanian".

Back in the day you could not use the surname cos everybody in the neighborhood knew you and your bro and sisters(all the way back to grands),if they did not know you, you better have come from Italy.
Not like when it was getting watered down with that great wiseguy name "Donnie Brasco" say that name a few times tell me that don't sound fake....

That one Genovese captain is named Ludwig bruschi

The Wiki says he's Kosovo Albanian, and I'm probably guessing his last name has been Americanized, as originally it was probably Aliti or Haliti.
I've heard about cases of Albanians getting inducted into some of the 'ndrinas. I won't even mention the Sacra Corona Unita which is full of Albanians, so much as the boss comes over to Albania regularly. I know this for a fact.
If we're talking about Arbereshe then they're pretty much Italians, just with an old Albanian descent. There have been plenty, I think Johnny Dio was one. Then again pretty much everybody born in Piana degli Greci (Albanesi) in Sicily is most likely Arbereshe, along with other pockets throughout Italy.
That's why I was curious about Alite, I wanted to know if there's any Albanian becoming made in America, cause there have been cases in Italy.

There was no shortage of "full blooded" Italian Americans when Hill was coming up. There was no need to make members who were only half-Italian (although it still happened in rare instances). Things are much different today. Hardly any Italian immigration, coupled with assimilation, and they really don't have much choice but to look the other way. I mean, they claim that they've gone back to the "hundred percent" rule, but it's very hard to believe that they'll be able to fully enforce it.


He's not Arbereshe. His parents were both from Kosovo.


Not that I'm aware of. You have to remember that there was a lot of tension when the Albanians first came here. Things are different now. The Italians have come to realize that the Albanians are very similar in nature to us. Plus, the Albanians have moved into the old Italian strongholds as the Italians have moved up the social ladder. And truth be told, a lot of the Albanians are starting to assimilate and move to the suburbs themselves. So I'd never say never, but to my knowledge it hasn't happened yet.

Yeah I had a feeling his name has probably been Americanized. He's the only one with the surname "Alite" that I have ever heard of. Of course I don't know all of the world's whitepages phonebooks by heart but the surname sounds unusual, both for an Italian and an Albanian. Then again, I have an unusual surname as well

With the Gambino administration being Sicilian they're not comfortable with a few of the Non-100% Italians apparently. Not going to mention who said this unless he steps in and quotes me

I have to believe that that's indeed the case. It's ironic because the Gambinos have two very public examples in Campos and Knapik (Merola). But with the Sicilians clearly steering that ship these days, I'd be shocked if they weren't the one family to really tighten things up in that department. But as I also alluded to earlier, it's easier said than done (due to assimilation, "mixed" marriages, etc.).

We spoke about this not too long ago, I doubt they will put them on the shelve but like you said any leadership role seems out of the question.

Campos & Merola seem to be real solid guys and not to worry about though, maybe it's a Sicilian thing.

I agree. They're not going to take that money and flush it down the toilet because their Sicilian honor has been offended. But they'll never get administration spots under these guys.

They're probably better off anyway. Especially Campos. That kid is richer than shit these days. Who needs the aggravation? If I was him I'd take my money ask to get shelved .

Maybe he'll retire in Puerto Rico with his dad Amazing how he got to keep pretty much all his money from the porn scams, he must have hid it well.

Isnt campos greek?

Half Puerto Rican, half Italian.

He may have some Greek blood, but Greeks are Mediterranean. So half-Greek/half-Italian sounds a lot better than half-Rican/half-Italian.

And I got news for you. His Mom, who's a dynamite lady, probably isn't a hundred percent Italian herself.

But my best guess is that he's 1/4 Italian, at best. But he's a great kid, a monster earner, and a stand up guy.

so you know the family personally?

Pizza is a bronx guy, you get to know a lot about your who's around you, more so in the same age group..

Thanks, Bronx (although I have about ten years on Campos, but close enough).

Enough said, Extortion .

In general what's the deal with kicking up from your legit business?

Ie if Campos for example has several legitimate business's now, restaurant, trucking, whatever, does he have to kick up a % from those to his higher up/'s?

Or in the mob are you only expected to kick up from your ILLEGAL rackets?

Cheers.

Good question, Sonny.