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Gotti jnrs wedding list! #830125
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So who is who? Most guys gave 5k, however if you notice down of the left hand side, " Dom " gave 10k, im petty sure thats the genovese people! I thought they didnt get along with the Gottis.
Gas was also at the wedding, joking with Bobby boriello, yet a year later he whacked him!




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Re: Gotti jnrs wedding list! [Re: calcestruzzo] #830132
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Yeh I used to wonder why guys act like they're best friends but try to kill each other behind their backs

Whenever I've seen an enemy I make sure he knows if BUT having read nick the crow's book, I now get it

He talked about how they'd see harry the hunch or his brother at a wake or whatever, go over, buy each other a drink & act like best buddies. But then go stalking for him later at night

Re: Gotti jnrs wedding list! [Re: calcestruzzo] #830139
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Treacherous down right treacherous people.I have seen guys have anxiety attacks just because they think that they have a problem with them.


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Re: Gotti jnrs wedding list! [Re: calcestruzzo] #830154
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That person in the middle, on the bottom, who gave $300, R. Asoxle?.......What are the odds that guy is still breathing?

It would have been better to give nothing and say you left your wallet at home, I will get you next time John!

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There was a list that I think the feds done with all the real names, it's out there online somewhere.

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According to Sewyn Raabs Five families Tommy Gambino gave 70,000$ and Sammy 7,500. I'm not sure I see either one on the list.

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Does anyone know HIS reasoning for keeping the list and the money?

I assume that he wanted the list to see who deserved favors based on how good they were to him but I really don't know why he would always have the exact amount at all times. That part makes little sense.

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Originally Posted By: ItalianIrishMix
Does anyone know HIS reasoning for keeping the list and the money?

I assume that he wanted the list to see who deserved favors based on how good they were to him but I really don't know why he would always have the exact amount at all times. That part makes little sense.


Thats just an italian thing with weddings, you keep a record of how much they gave you so later when their family has a wedding you go back to the record and if they were generous, you be generous back. But if they were cheap fucks, you be cheap with them. So its not really a mafia thing.


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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: ItalianIrishMix
Does anyone know HIS reasoning for keeping the list and the money?

I assume that he wanted the list to see who deserved favors based on how good they were to him but I really don't know why he would always have the exact amount at all times. That part makes little sense.


Thats just an italian thing with weddings, you keep a record of how much they gave you so later when their family has a wedding you go back to the record and if they were generous, you be generous back. But if they were cheap fucks, you be cheap with them. So its not really a mafia thing.


Dead on Dell always were looked at by what you did or gave to others .And not just by the male figures the woman watched everything carrying bags, open doors, trash cans,if you were sneaky,the old ladys would call them little "sanickas"


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Re: Gotti jnrs wedding list! [Re: Belette] #830206
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Originally Posted By: Belette
According to Sewyn Raabs Five families Tommy Gambino gave 70,000$ and Sammy 7,500. I'm not sure I see either one on the list.


isn't there a T Gambino for 5 and and a J Gambino for 5 aswell? Middle of page the 1st column.

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Yaeh this was always a cool thing to look at. On a day like this wedding imagine all the gossip going on later that night in the social clubs. The triangle. John Jr really cleaned up. Glitz is the westside gas tax guy read he was super rich died young close to gotti and mike franses.

Re: Gotti jnrs wedding list! [Re: Beanshooter] #830211
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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter

isn't there a T Gambino for 5 and and a J Gambino for 5 aswell? Middle of page the 1st column.


Yes 70,000 seems crazy, but I double checked from the book and that what he says. Maybe he got that number wrong. I see J. Gambino and T. Gam for 5,000. That sounds more reasonable. Unless Tommy really felt like he needs to be good to Gotti.

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Kasman looks like he gave him 30,000 or 36,000. Nice gift!

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Kasman gave back some money he stole from sr.

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Kasman gave back some money he stole from sr.

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4 thou from Frank Lino, 5K from Patsy Conte and Danny Marino each, another 6K from Vic Orena and his crew when Persico only have a thousand, kinda funny. A thousand from Piney Armone, 2K from Frankie Loc and 5 thousand dollars from Jon Alite, this list is dripping with irony. A grand from Joe Massino, and 4 grand from Sal Vitale and Shorty Spero, another great one. Who gave the 10 grand though bottom of left side, Joey Dimiglia?

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Second page of the list.


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Re: Gotti jnrs wedding list! [Re: calcestruzzo] #830293
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Pretty strange that Greg Depalma, and his son are not on that list, i am pretty sure greg was close to Sr, and his son was in Jrs crew in 1990.


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No Luchese's on the list.


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CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
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Re: Gotti jnrs wedding list! [Re: calcestruzzo] #830323
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Pretty much the whose who of the mob during that period.


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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
No Luchese's on the list.


19th hole is on the list, they gave 10k

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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
No Luchese's on the list.


19th hole is on the list, they gave 10k


Thx Tom. Missed it.


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I'm a little surprised to see Riggi, D'Amato and Rotondo from the DeCalvacante's on this list. Thought those "Farmer" references would have gotten way too fuckin old by the time of Gotti Juniors chance at the helm. Sure, maybe 1 Captain and an additional Soldier at most just to plant the fake sincerity flag but I can't see this group mingling around the bar attempting to socialize.

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That's def a list of who's-who. Looks like J Watts gave the most, $9,300.



Does anyone have the list that Jr had with the names of proposed members from different families?

It had the name "Sigmund" on it...Gotti Sr. was also talking/joking about it on one of the tapes from prison. He says something like " We got "Sigmund the Sea Monster", who the hell are these f-ing people."

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Re: Gotti jnrs wedding list! [Re: calcestruzzo] #830407
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Elizabeth and Newark were probably more dangerous than most of the places many mobsters came from

I'm talking total shit holes , open drug markets and murders no one cares about
Not to mention blacks and Latinos everywhere

It no wonder one of the top players in the WS in NJ got mugged

For a white man some of those places you just can't enter unless u a steady dope customer

That farmer just nonsense talk , some of NY toughest mobsters from around there , but go there and see for yourself

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DB. I was referring more to how condescending they would be (behind the DeCalv's backs). Tough as fuck without a doubt. I agree with you there but it would seem to me to be even more reason to want to chop off that fuckin arm you have to shake while knowing you get virtually no respect. Atleast in Gotti Sr's days. I'm admittedly not that informed or interested in Gotti Jnr. "Striked me as more of a mope than a slick".

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