Certainly Scarfo Sr. was a real gangster and in the very siggy way wanted his son to succeed him in the philly mob, but after the attack in 1989 when nicky Jr. ran in north jersey and was made in the Lucchese family in 1990 or 1994 or more after ?
Was respected by other gangsters of the Lucchese or was seen as gangsters from peanuts introduced only for the ties of his father with the boss Amuso?
And for the Lucchese has been a real earner?

Not Siggy

Serp he's Calabrase right?

What I meant was that Scarfo Sr. (who is of Calabrian origin) wanted his son to become the boss after him as well as in the Sicilian Mafia. You haven't answered my question: Nicky Jr. is or not a real gangster?

of course he is...stupid fucking thread

Read think capeci said he was.inducted in 99. After along wait cause of crea stalling. Pass over is soon donate 25 bucks to isreal

In regards to your question of whether or not he's a good earner the multi million dollar loan fraud thing he got caught up in must have made decent money for the Lucchese's.

Cringeworthy thread

From what I get he's basically asking if Nicky Jr was really a tough guy or just one of those "daddy's boys" and if he was a good earner or not.. I don't see the problem here.

English isn't his first language obviously but Furio's a good guy on these boards.

Well for what is worth, he survived getting whacked and I think he took 5 or 6 shots and lived and instead of running away from the life he stayed. That kind of makes him a pretty tough guy.

I am thinking that if it is a gangster from the mean streets of yester year no he is a big earner and white collar guy.

If you are the average Joe or Mary then he is a very big gangster.

If you live in the tri-state area and you know about the life ,he is a monster earner and that's only what you and I know about.

Take a look at what he was able to do with the deck stacked against him ,in a family that he was not apart of coming up ,very hard to earn and move up in a family under those circumstances.

Since English is not my first language, I will explain better.

Scarfo Jr. after Merlino tried to whack him in 1989, runs away in north jersey and thanks to his father obtained protection from the Lucchese.
In 1989 Mad Dog Taccetta ruled the Jersey faction and Casso or Amuso ordered to protect Scarfo;
what I meant he gained the respect of Lucchese soldiers or was made only for his name?
Have you ever killed for the lucchese family?
And what was involved, loansherking, drug trafficking etc.
And even now it is seen as a daddy'sboy klike Junior Gotti or has earned the respect of the other soldiers?

then after an attempted murder has not abandoned the life so he's a tought guy don't say anything?

He is born in this life as little boy allie persico and would never abandoned it.

I wonder if Salvatore LoCascio and Nicky Scarfo Jr. were the inspiration behind the webistics storyline in The Sopranos.

Only if AJ Soprano would be shot by a man with the mask of Batman while he was eating at Vesuvius and that man was a Chris Moltisanti crew soldier maybe Murmur Zancone.

Was nicky jr. a real gangster? Well, he made real money. He went to a real prison. He committed real crimes. What do you think?
FWI - no one called Michael T " mad dog".

I heard he was made as a favor to Scarfo from Amuso, not sure how correct it is. As the guys above me said, he did have a couple of schemes going so I'm sure he earned good for a while.

No idea if he killed or not, probably not but my estimation he's probably a real gangster.. but he has big shoes to fill, his father's.. just like Jr Gotti, so at the end of the day they can never be as big of gangsters as their fathers.

There is a chart where Vic Amuso is called Vic "The Terminator" Amuso.

Did anyone ever call him that?

And the females call me "The Italian Stallion"

Actually they were little shoes. That's probably where a lot of the anger came from.

/me chuckles

He wasn't under the protection of the Lucchese's after the hit attempt, in which he stayed in Atlantic City & North Jersey and out of South Philly. When he got taken in in North Jersey, it was still the Philly Mob protecting him. The North Jersey remnants of the Caponigro crew, which was currently being oversaw by George Fresolone, were still loyal to Scarfo and took Nicky Jr. in. I think people have this idea that during this time Nicky Jr. was a recluse, he wasn't. The feds were watching him, they observed him meeting with various NJ, Philadelphia & even NY mobsters. He continued to collect a street tax. And guys still kicked up to him, those who were still loyal to his dad. Fresolone was an informant, and once he flipped, the rest of that Scarfo group went down. I think that's when the Lucchese's came in. And various researchers and reporters claim Scarfo Jr. obtained the rank of Capo, and still held that position when he was indicted on the FirstPlus extortion case. Though I haven't seen much to substantiate that belief.

Scarfo Jr. was a stone cold pussy. When his father got locked up, I remember people punching him in his face for general purposes. Im not joking....this guy would cross back and forth 10th street if he saw 2 guys coming his way. People use to literally punch him in the face and tell him to send for his father to suck their dicks. Once Scarfo sr. got booked...that was fucking that, Scarfos had no respect and everyone and their mother who suffered because of Scarfo sr. rejoiced that psychopath was gone.

The user "Serpiente" may have different stories from atlantic city...but i know for a fact in south philly, at that time, the Scarfo's werent liked at all. Joey Merlino took full advantage of this. To be honest, and maybe taking away Joeys credit a little....ANYONE coulda had that power grab and they would have the neighborhood behind them...thats how much Scarfo was hated in south Philly

I remember JR. trying to show his face all over south philly after his dad got booked because he assumed he was gonna be the boss. I saw someone slap him several times to the floor and then the guy leaned in a hawked a loogie right in his face in august of 1989 at Marcones waiting for a hoagie and the dude with Scarfo jr. ran to a pay phone, dialed 911 and said there were black Muslims strapped with AK 47's walking around talking about killing white people.....the whole fucking neighborhood was shut down that day because obviously, none of the scarfos could take a punch. There was police on every damn corner in south philly...and, as an avid pothead at the time, you can see how that can be extremely frustrating.

John Veasey roughed Stanfa jr. once too, but Veasey roughed alot of guys though, that fuckin rat

Given who his father was, I think it is very likely he killed at least one person. Remember how Scarfo sr. raised his nephew and adopted son Phil Leonetti? What makes you think Scrafo sr. wouldn't raise his son the same way? This was at a time when killing someone was mandatory to get made in the Philly family.

Phil left out so so many details when he flipped .

I thought that after his book he would go into detail about the first in some way know he loved the rep once that his book received .

When I finally read the entire book I was constantly waiting for him to elaborate on things , and he did not I know of things he never said a word about .

I guess he only had to give up so much and had the book written around his testimony .

I came across this interesting article that says Nick Jr's younger brother Mark Scarfo used to throw his weight around and use his father's name, while Nick Jr. was quieter and more reserved. I always thought people said Mark was picked on for his name? Link

That stuff with Mark was normal high school shit until his dad gets word or Phil gets word and has to do something before the boys look week .

If not for them growing up in a crime family it would have been regular school yard shit !

And they always make Chris look like a angel and he was right there for years is was not until a certain situation he decided to bail .

The Feds make him look clean cos they could not get nothing on him Chris was / is very shrewd !!!

A gangster is a gangster no matter what. They all have different roles. Some bring in the $$$ while others bust heads.