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Re: Skinny Joey Murder Indictment?
[Re: PHL_Mob]
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04/17/15 01:39 PM
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GerryLang
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Ray Wags is half Italian so I'm assuming that he's never going to be made, but who knows. He's actually directly related to Gaeton Lucibello and his brother is a bookmaker who got an '08 bookmaking charge. I don't think he's flipping any time soon but I'm also curious about his role in the grander scheme of things and what he actually knows, etc. I think he's more a friend, a very trusted friend, then guy involved in that life.
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Re: Skinny Joey Murder Indictment?
[Re: DanteMoltisanti]
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04/17/15 09:25 PM
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HandsomeStevie
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Sinatra, the guy your talking about is Stan Stein. He's Joey's sugar daddy!!
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Re: Skinny Joey Murder Indictment?
[Re: merlino]
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04/17/15 11:36 PM
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Is it true if you are out of the life for 5 years or more the feds cannot get a RICO indictment on you? I understand the feds could still get joey on a murder charge if he was there or did any of the murders but was wondering if anyome knows about any truth to the RICO statutes, if joey he has good enough vision to lay low until 2020 No statute on murder. If they can only use said murder in connection to a RICO that seems to have run its course, the Feds have gotten around it before. Look no further than Eppolito and Caracappa. Now, those two animals belong buried UNDER the jail. Dirty cops are in the same class as wiseguys who turn on their friends. Actually, they're worse. Because you expect a criminal to lie, cheat and steal. But from a legal standpoint, the way they kept the clock ticking on the "Mafia Cops" RICO case was ridiculous. In short, the Feds have a tremendous amount of clout when it comes to getting Judges to rule in their favor. They stack the deck and they win. They're not batting .900 plus at trial for two hundred years because their lawyers are any smarter than the best and the brightest in the criminal defense world. That being said, if you don't go around killing people, they probably won't look to frame you.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Skinny Joey Murder Indictment?
[Re: Wilson101]
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04/18/15 03:14 AM
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"If I know anything in this world, it is this: the feds have a hard-on for and vendetta against Joey Merlino to such a degree that its palpable in everything they do, every move, every action, every word – I personally know of a handful of just everyday citizens that have had to interact with Merlino since his release from his most-recent RICO bust in early 2011 and were promptly apprehended by the FBI for questioning. FBI agents and U.S. attorneys in Philadelphia want to bury him in a hole so bad, they’d sell their first born kids. I swear to God. The only think in the annals of American legal history that could equal this lust for the sinking of a man and his criminal empire would be Al Capone in Chicago circa 1930 and John Gotti in New York circa 1990."
Better to have a metaphorical hard on than you know.... an actual hard on.
The way people root for individuals who - in essence - are criminals and serial killers is pretty disturbing. I mean where do you draw the line?
Society is pretty f***ed up. Give me a break. Criminals killing criminals is really a cause you wanna crusade for? Who has he allegedly killed? Other LCN guys. Please show me an example of one person he allegedly killed who wasn't a killer himself. You gotta grow up buddy. There are causes worth fighting for but it's hard for me to find any empathy for people who wanna be in that life. We aren't privy to all the people he has killed or ordered to be killed. We do know that he could have easily killed innocent bystanders when he was recklessly trying to assassinate Scarfo Jr. and Stanfa in public places. We also know that he is violent street thug who extorted and contributed in making life a living hell for older Italian American males - kind of ironic then how you have a minority of younger Italian American males looking up to him. Killing people period is sick. If "crips" or "bloods" go around shooting each other and polluting their neighborhoods with drugs they are "animals". So is Merlino, no matter how much brylcreem he wears, how much time he spends in tanning salons and how expensive the suits Stan Stein buys him are. Burnstein should have a exercise a bit more detachment and journalistic integrity about this. The feds aren't "on his nuts". He violated parole by consorting with a fellow felon. They are leaders of a profitable and violent crime family. This isn't f*ing Robin Hood.
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Re: Skinny Joey Murder Indictment?
[Re: SinatraClub]
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04/18/15 08:17 AM
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There was a special on CNN about that robbery. There were only two security guards on the job that night, and it is suspected to be an inside job as the original guard who was on duty that night, called out. So a sub was brought in and another guy, and the robbers somehow appeared to know where the alarm buttons were and tied the two guards up away from them, so they couldn't reach them or touch them. According to one of the guards that were on that night, while he was doing his rounds he noticed like a dark shadow standing between two statues in one of the art rooms, which indicated to him, that they had already had someone inside the building before the robbers even knocked on the door disguised as police. I think I watched that or another documentary about the robbery. There is just such a small market for high price ed stolen artwork. Maybe their plan was to sit on it for awhile and try and get the reward money.
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Re: Skinny Joey Murder Indictment?
[Re: Dellacroce]
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04/18/15 11:06 AM
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Typical moe tilden, always the first to get up on your high horse. If you dont think the feds hold a grudge or carry out a vendetta then your just as delusional as the people who worship merlino. Moe is a typical, Holier-Than-Thou moralist. And that would be fine if he was consistent. Back on November 30th, he had a bit of a meltdown about the way the poor Kennedys were being picked on, and actually had the nerve to suggest that the "misdeeds" of the Kennedy clan were "alleged." I replied with what I thought was a fair post about trying to be consistent, and Moe never replied to me. I'm going to link his post here (be sure to read his post and my reply), then I'll continue on with my thoughts underneath the link. http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post816149Now, here's the thing. Go back a hundred or so years, and Joe Kennedy is in the same league as Frank Costello or Meyer Lanky. So, if you're a Jew or an Italian, your kids might get rich. But their gains are forever "ill-gotten," and people should be reminded of it at every turn. But if you're Irish, and you're in bed with everyone from Giancana to Costello to Lansky, it's just fine for YOUR descendants to become American Royalty. Moe's right, though. God only knows how many people that Joey Merlino had killed. But God's also the only one who knows how filthy fucking dirty the scumbag Kennedys were (and remain to this day). And here's the important part about being consistent. If every Italian wiseguy deserves to die in a cage for his crimes (and I always say that murderers belong in jail), then the scumbag Kennedys should be held to the same standard. From serial rapists to driving under the influence to poor Teddy's rough night at Chappaquiddick (which is just water under the bridge  ), it's okay for the Kennedy family to live its life outside the law. But if you have jet black hair, olive skin, and your name ends in a vowel, then you're public enemy number one. Consistency, Moe. And when it comes to being harassed and prosecuted by the Federal Government, what's good for Enzo should be for Seamus.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Skinny Joey Murder Indictment?
[Re: Dellacroce]
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04/18/15 01:17 PM
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Moe tilden, hypocrite thy name is you. Your being called out ya better show up. In my opinion, both Moe Tilden and Pizzaboy have a point.
Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:
1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."
2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Re: Skinny Joey Murder Indictment?
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04/18/15 01:56 PM
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Moe tilden, hypocrite thy name is you. Your being called out ya better show up. In my opinion, both Moe Tilden and Pizzaboy have a point. I was just joking about calling him out i dont really care if he responds. But what exactly do you think his point is? that this board needs him, some liberal halfa troll irishmen to be our moral compass? No thanks.
"Let me tell you something. There's no nobility in poverty. I've been a poor man, and I've been a rich man. And I choose rich every fucking time."
-Jordan Belfort
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