My mates dad lives here in the states. Said the mafia here is very active and infiltrates loads of legitimate businesses. He's a well off middle class guy but says it is blatant to see them and they leach off the Italian community here. Not taking his word as gospel but found it very interesting to hear this from somebody who lives here and active in local legit business here..

honestly if hes well off and middle class he's probably never seen a made guy in his life. most legitimate guys get to know wiseguys bc they have their own issues with gambling, coke, alcoholism, etc.... at least half of them are some kindof addict anyways

Your gona get everyone at it with this post man haha

The Cleveland family has been finished for years. In fact, with the recent arrest of Gambino member Carmine Agnello, one Cleveland law enforcement official said traditional organized crime had been gone in that city for some time. There are only a few Cleveland members still living.

I Hear what your saying, doubt my mates dads a mob expert but he is a local so I did respect what he said. He never said he had seen made men but he did say he had experienced mob corruption in Cleveland businesses and stated that they prey on the local Italian community in Cleveland. Lived there for 15 - 20 years. May just be remnants of mob here. Definitely oc though from what he truthfully said.

I'm sure there's plenty of gambling and shylocking going on, but it's not something organized. I've been to Cleveland a few times over the years and there really is no Italian community left in the city. What you have are college students at Case Western University surrounded by tens of thousands of blacks.

Cleveland has at least 50 made guys operating.

No offense , but if you really think or believe cleveland has 50 made guys , you are in a fantasyland !!! Maybe in th 40s or 50 s even if then .! There are a few guys left & still operate as lcn but it is under ny or chicago .there are alot of associates ( real) & a whole lot of wannabees.They keep everyday jobs & work to keep off heat & believe this- if carmine didnt kick back( which went thru ny & back to cleve) he would have never opened up or been able to operate.That you can believe as true as there is a moon !!! Maybe some people who post should really know what they speak of bfore posting.its easy to write bs & hit send.im from the hill always will be - still visit 3-4 times a week & I Do know past & present very very well .not boasting but setting it straight.if i just mentioned a nickname- anyone who knows - would know me !! LCN never left - they changed is all & formed new allegiances. Think of cleve people i
PA too---- later & stay off the internet or drugs

Eggplant is a wide up merchant fella...he knows Cleveland doesn't have 50 made guys

lonardo said cleveland family had 60 members at its peak

Thats bullshit & that is exactly what led to clevelands demise. They really didn't make enough guys & it ended up costing them.prior to scalish & after - it was even less .Cleveland had alot of good connections, & small enough as to ny or chicago - they had connects in vegas & florida , just as they started to get going . They had heavy union ties & influence - but look what they morphedinto - they couldn't even knock off greene & were to much into drugs , allowing dopeheads to handle their business.There were more rats & snitches than made men. Sorry to say, since i was born & raised there

The Johnny "Johnny Football" Manzielli Family

Now that is funny & more like it

Cleveland at it's peak in the 40s-50s had 60 made men but because both Scalish both Licavoli don't made new blood,the remaning made men was old in age when began the war against greene,after the irishman blown up,Carmen Zagaria a powerful associate transform cleveland on the candyshop of the drugs,selling 15 milion a year of coke,H,PCP and weed.

Zagaria can't control his drug ring and so 19 peopele were killed and the attention of the FBI led Zagaria to flip in 1983;
he was followed by underboss Angelo Lonardo in the same years and by Anthony Delmonti an associate in the early 1990s.

on anthony delmonti

http://blog.cleveland.com/earlyedition/2007/04/local_mobsterturnedinformant_d.html

On Carmen Zagaria and Tommy Sinito drug empire

http://www.americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_390.html

This is what remains of the family

Joseph "Joe Loose" Iacobacci
James "Jimmy" Comella b.1960
Eugene* The Animal Ciasulo b.1931,retired in philadelphia in the early 80s
William "Billy" DeNova b.1940
William "Billy D" "Dileno b.1937
Ronald Lucarelli Jr b.1958
John Oliverio b.1952
Russell Papalardo b.1941
Salvatore Sam Sirna
Anthony Velotta

Members that flipped

Angelo Lonardo underboss
Carmen Zagaria associate
Anthony Delmonti associate


Members died since 2000

Bucci-Amato* Tuttie
Bucci-Ralph
Bussaca-Sam*
Carabbia-Ronald The Crab capo
Cupido-Joseph* Joe Capp
Gallo-Joseph capo
Iorillo-John
Sanzo-Peter Petey Boy

For info on the names,so some people don't say that I wrote bullishits

http://cobras.clevelandsgs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/1975cpd-criminal-roster.pdf
http://www.americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_16.html#
http://www.americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_16.html#

If the ganbinos have rackets in cleveland that family is done

I doubt the Gambinos had rackets in Ohio,Carmine Agnello was shelved and now was simple criminal.

Ralph bucci and Ron Caribba Are both alive
Sam Sirna is dead

When did Sirna pass away? He was in his 80's I believe.

It was like 5or 6 years ago .

No shit thought he was still alive.

He is gone

Thx for the info pal.

Actually he died in 2008 at the Age of 78
Some people put his age older but I believe he was Born around 1930.

Lived in Garfield Heights

Was Charged in December 1992 with Gambling and Operating a Gambling House - Plead Not Guilty found Guilty in Summit County (Akron, Ohio)

Thx he does have a son with the same name still around right?

I don't think he was made. He worked with Youngstown/PA , STAND UP GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is truly interesting man. i've met an associate once was my bestfriends uncle guy is really cool and truly a stand-up people person type. interesting though never knew they were that activate.

Although remember, a busimess man reached out to rudy fratto to get the cleveland mafia off of his back

so what remains are thugs with a italian surname ?