Underboss during the Stanfa reign.

Whose crew was he in during the 80's?

Martines.... unusual name.

As i'm sure your aware, this has been discussed before. I'll placate you though.

He was with the riccobene crew. He got shot in an attempted hit by the Scarfo faction.

He was with the Riccobene's.

I'm sure someone who was made proposed him an new the rules think his name was changed on Ellis island like a few others any way the probaly most Sicilian mob boss in 1992 or so inducted him so he got in. Chase just killed a met bring out the stretcher.

My pops dad last name got cut down multi letters was trying that big word couldn't spell or try with spell check. Wtf just happen chase is at second.

Mlb just fucked up. Thought the NFL was bad an there persecution of Tom Brady was bad.

He is Guatemalan.

I grew up next to them son would always say its martines with an "s" it was good stuff

Martines could possibly be Northern Italian, you get a lot of last names that don't end in a vowel with Northern Italians. My last name doesn't end in a vowel and my last name wasn't changed one single letter at all zip zero percent when my Grandfather left Northern Italy for New Jersey.

Mob guys with facial hair.

Riccobene (Phil.)
Martines (Phil.)
Lucibello (Phil.)
Scarpa (Colombo)

Casso & Amuso were on the run so that doesn't count.

Mousie" Massimino (Phil) has facial hair

That's right. Forgot about him.

Seems to be a more of a Philly thing.

There's that picture of Charlie Carnegs with a beard too but IDK if he was in the wind or not.

Phil Testa had a moustache too.

I don't think it's Northern. In North Italy this kind of surnames are basically the same as others but without the final vowel. Martines (or Martinez) sounds more like a Spanish surname.

Or possibly a Portugues name. Fernandez (Sp) Fernandes (Port)

There are Martines in Italy, the name would have originally been Spanish and likely dates back to when the Spanish Bourbons ruled the Kingdom of Naples/ Kingdom of Sicily. Many stayed in Italy, had children, etc. Over time the name spelling changed from the 'ez' suffix to the 'es'




Many different ethnicities settled in italy over the years and some surnames reflect that. Persico (means Persian), Tedeschi/Tedesco (means German), Greco (duh), Mormando (means Norman)

Heh.

The story of our origins is really fascinating.

I was thinking Martines kinda looks Spanish or Portuguese.

And maybe I am really reaching here but Carmine Persico actually kinda looks Persian - particularly in the pictures of him from when he was a teenager; really swarthy.

I knew an Italian with the surname "Cois" once. I don't even know how you pronounce that.

Lots of Arab blood in Sicily, so its possible one of Carmine's ancestors was some sort of Saracen, lol.

It can also mean peach, but he certainly isn't one in the looks department.

Oh wow, that's really interesting, thanks for that. "Tedesco" looks like it is probably cognate with words like "Teuton", "Deutsch", and "Dutch".

No one is really sure where it came from originally, but one theory has it that the word "Mafia" itself might be a leftover Arabic word.

martines with or with out the z its a latin name period .and also vic amuso and Nicodemo scarfo they both look like south americans peruvians, Quentin Tarantino was right sicilians are a mutt they got black blood pumping tru their vains look at frankie carbone from Goodfellas the "afro" hair .

IDK if they look Peruvian. That may be an exaggeration.

Peruvians are very dark and their bone structure is different.

Ron Previte is definitely someone that could pass for African-American.

This is meant to be a racist and insulting comment crazycrip. And wrong on so many levels.

well im hispanic, just pointing out some similaities tht sum dont semm to notice

scarf looks like a italian.

you haven't been around many african americans I can tell.

Dont know if any of you have seen a peruvian lately but damn, they are ugly.
Chinese type eyes with very round faces and a mix of indian. Wierd lookin dudes.

I should've said mixed race.

yes good point....however those two i mention still look like they from there especially with all tannig vic and and Nick have