I believe that Guerra refused to get made;the colombos are the worst family and for sure with 17 rats and the persicos that think to be a mob dinasty , its better to be an associate.
Same think for the bonanno. But ralphie_cifaretto I dont think that a wiseguy will refuse to be made in the Gambinos,in the Luccheses or even in the genoveses that are most stable family.
The Rico risk are nothing with the opportunity to made real money in this 3 families. But is just my opinion.

my opinion.. tyhis is with all the families..the major drug dealing i.e. gambino bros .pizza connection . and the clearing up of almost all the murders in all the families, if they stay clean of those two things what are made guys going to get heavy time from? so a new guy comes in has zero murders and not a drug dealer he can coast for life doing the staple things that are done. earn big through connections..look at the gambino's now..they are having a great run..gotti's are gone . what is a c.i. going to say he is a shylock ,bookmaker,has construction work.. sells coffee..the G would never expose a top level c.i. for any of those crimes.get made, get paid start getting laid

Its what i say,before for get made must whack some body now if you are a great earner for sure will be made. Made money in the shadow, the old sicilian way.
For sure even in the genoveses there drug dealer but the family is stable and had less possibility to be caught by the feds.

The family is only as good as the people at the top ...

100%

+1 serp completely agree...true in the.corporate world and the streets

LCN is at the end of the day simply a business.

An illegal one, but a business nevertheless.

Anyone have any idea how many captains they have?

Courtesy Pogo the Clown:

Capo's:
1. Joseph Amato/56 - Brooklyn
2. Joseph Baudanza/70 - Brooklyn, Manhattan and Staten Island
3. Dennis "Fat/Little/The Beard" DeLucia/72 - Brooklyn and the Bronx
4. Thomas “Tom Mix/Mr. T” Farese/72 – South Florida
5. Thomas "Tommy Shots/Bop" Gioeli/62 (IP/9/9/2024) – Brooklyn, Staten Island and Long Island
6. Ralph Lombardo/84/Luca DiMatteo/70 – Brooklyn, Queens and Long Island
7. Theodore "Teddy/Skinny" Persico Jr/51 (IP/8/21/2020) - Brooklyn
8. Thomas Petrizzo/81 - Brooklyn
9. Michael Uvino/49 (IP/6/5/2016)/Michael Catapano/51 (IP/5/1/2016) – Brooklyn and Long Island

Ralph DeLeo dident he have a crew in Massachusetts who took over it when he went to prison

Don't think you could characterize that as a crew.

And I'm pretty sure Deleo was never a captain. Met Alphonse in prison, was made then tapped as acting. IIRC

Tom Mix is alleged to be the official consigliere and possibly the current acting boss. I doubt he's a captain.

He was indentified as acting consig, Andy mush is the street boss, not mix.

Correct. Farese was officially a captain who was acting consigliere before he was indicted. I don't know if he's resumed that role.

Mush !!!

Farese was acting consigliere for Richard fusco , when fusco died there was no official consigliere , I would bet Farese is consigliere of the Colombos if he's not got an even higher role in the crime family , it's very possible he has

Does anyone know the status of Dennis DeLucia in this recovery? Is he part of the Administration or just a captain?

I think Dennis is a captain, but it wouldn't surprise me if he got promoted. Didn't DeLucia have a lot of guys under him?

Mix is younger than Andy Mush and given Andy's health these days, I wouldn't be surprised if Mix is now calling the shots. That guy is a solid leader and has a very good reputation in that world.

No he is not.

You don't know that though. We can only speculate. Not unless you're close to the situation.

No I know that !!!!

He is were he is cos of marriage!!!

He does alright but nothing crazy. He is not street boss material !!!

Times are bad and he is in the blood family ...real real close !!!

I can say more but it would not be wise...

Him being bumped up was a favor !!!

a favour ?? I can't imagine being bumped up to an administration position in the Colombos as a favour , nearly every member of the administration of that family has received a lengthy jail sentence over the years

I get what you are saying Dom and my be the way I am saying it but trust me if not for a certain someone he would not be where he is.

Well and the fact that the picking is slim !!!

Farese is from Boston sold drugs down in Florida 70tys meets a Colombo capo in prison got put under him. Then gets out. Met Allie persicos daughter and had a family and became part of the the crime family. Guy did a shit load of time and is rich. That guy Andy Russo probably boss again or running it threw he kid and that guy Donnie shacks. Unless he's deathly I'll he don't give a shit about dying in jail. Someone posted how Andy was shocked when a capo wanted a sit down with the gambinos over a stabbing and the Colombo's hadn't retalliated first. Another sonny Fran.

Pmac right on !! The female she is not lil Allie's kid . But close ..the brother Carmine's niece!!!

They are keeping family in all leadership rolls , they figure if they flip they will have to take a Persico with them into the program and I don't see that going down!!

Dom was recently straightened out. Not with the Colombos, with the west side. Smart move, now that the old man is dead if the Colombos have internal strife or power struggles and anyone is looking to settle old scores from the last period of strife, he can't be touched without permission from the new family.

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