No and no. But they're still number three in the Bronx. Although, they're still number two overall, and doing very well these days.

pizza the westside are in front of the lucheses right? and by how much are the westside ahead? lucheses have lot of top guys based in the bronx as do the westside so interested

First off, it's Thanksgiving. I have too much on my plate today to worry about providing proof. The burden of proof falls upon you because of your blind denial and the fact that, judging from your book links, you were still a kid when it all went down. But just keep in mind that right after Gotti and Frankie were sentenced, they went to great lengths to avoid surveillance.

However, being that you seem to be a genuinely nice guy, and my pal Dan asked me to give you a break awhile back, I will. You just have to do me one favor. Just ask Junior if he regrets throwing in with Greg and Craig, in favor of Tore and Richie. He'll know what I mean, even if he claims ignorance. If he can give me a simple "Yes, I regret that," you have my word that I'll never post about the subject matter again.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.
Although, there's no need to 'give me a break.' If you're not trolling and genuinely believe me to be wrong, please continue. If I'm wrong then I'd appreciate you or anyone else correcting me so I can be right. But-- I won't be convinced without proof. I'm sure you understand. And the proof I've seen points to Alite not being on record after 91, and, if he really had an interest in a strip club in the Bronx then why did he leave that out of his book? For sure he would have mentioned it.

I'm 30 and my age has nothing to do with it. Neither does yours. What would count is if you were in the life and have firsthand knowledge. I'm here under my own name and anyone can look me up, the same can't be said for you. No disrespect but you could be a teenager in Ohio, just one with an uncle in New York who tells him stories.

It's all good though, let's just agree to disagree for now. I have a lot on my plate also and need to focus. The Internet can be a huge distraction.

As for the other stuff-- I'll ask him. As long as he's not breaking confidences I don't see why he wouldn't answer. Whether the answer he gives is something to be put on the Internet is another question. I don't recall him talking about The Bronx in his book. His book focused more on his own trials more than anything else. He doesn't have absolution for his crimes and couldn't dive into the deep end with the street stuff even if he wanted to. The government would love to indict him again. They tried to flip more people against him, including his cousin, after his 4th mistrial even. They tried to put a whole new case on him.

One more thing-- No one calls him 'Junior.' That's like an insult. It's just John.

Happy Thanksgiving man. My best to you.

And cheech, I hope you don't stick to your promise of not posting anymore. That would be a shame, man.

Morris Park, Arthur Avenue, Louie, Wahoo and Tore (who also stood tall like a man but walked away from the life without any silly publicity). Because if you get into the Bronx stuff with me you'll be completely out of your depth.

Pizzaboy, you're a homo. You probably fuck your dying invalid dad in the ass when you two are alone. What a fake, scumbag piece of shit you are.

For my two cents, I'm a cheech fan. His absence mirrors mine in limited posting these days on this board. Though he's more missed than yours.

And if it wasn't for PB. We both wouldn't even check in.

Thank you, ONTHEFLY. In mentioning BOTH Mancusos, you just proved yourself to me. No offense, but we get a lot of banned members who continually sneak back here just to stalk and troll.

I'm exhausted, and I'm probably going to sleep after this short post. I'm sure you know that Wahoo passed away a few years ago. That a Jersey guy with close ties to the Sicilians absorbed part of that crew speaks volumes .

He'll be gone in a minute anyway.

Anytime, ONTHEFLY. And I decidedly said that you're not a troll. It was meant as a compliment. Just a couple of posts up some asshole attacked my sick, elderly father. Just to give you an example. But I won't respond. He'll be gone in a minute anyway. Welcome aboard .

So I guess, we were sitting in my store JG & Alite bullshiting in 92 up to 93 didn't happen.

Forget the fact that some people come here with a clear agenda. There are some people who refuse to believe anything if you can't provide a picture or a link. Well, you can't link a memory. These posters have the mindset that if the Feds didn't issue a press release, that it didn't happen.