See it did it again, knew I wasn't crazy lol

Also, I've seen respected posters on here, like Bronx and Pmac, they aren't trying to win any fuckin essay contest, and I don't see people breaking a guy like Furios balls cause he uses a little broken English, so miss me with that bullshit man...

Idk about all the back and forth over reliable sources and frankly dont care..I trust PB's street insight and I also take whats written and said by LE ..doesn't have to be one or the other..mikey nose may be official boss, but based on the surveillance photos and the entire fam basically showing up to give envelopes to Cammarano id say its clear he has the day to day power on the street..and not to mention thats in line w what PB actually said which was that Mancuso may be named boss by the feds and or Capeci but he wont be the power in 2019 when he walks outta jail...if cammarano manages to not get indicted between then which isnt likely than imo hed remain the power..just my opinion of course

mancuso recently got moved to a prison in texas it would be hard to communicate with guys now


not saying he is the "offical boss" but capeci has shown us who the power is that is what matters

Yes GR, THATS the type of shit you should pay attention to...

Like I said,I think he is official boss, like Rastelli, and I think he is basically ineffectual, just like Rastelli, or even Vitale as underboss, with the title.

The only thing I don't agree with, is that the other families wouldn't elevate him because they despise him, shit, guys despised Gotti. Plus I feel like, it's just history repeating itself, Rastelli- Mancuso, Brasco- Massino; it's like the Bonnano family has almost been in receivership since Joe Bonnano, monitored by the Commision, that's why I think the other families might be backing Mancuso, as a response to the treachery of Massino.

You want to know if Mancuso is powerful? Well how powerful are the guys loyal to him? Is his nephew respected like Massino was respected? Does his nephew have a conduit to other bosses? If not, then Cammarano IS the power, but it seems he can't make any moves to remove Mancuso, any more than Crea can remove Amuso, you know what I mean?

That was in the mid-90's. Scarfo Sr. also had a large part to play in that. Also, the whole situation with Scarfo Jr & The Perna's kind of showed what guys think about Vic Amuso and his say so. That isn't to say everyone felt that way, as it's been said Scarfo's backing during his plans to "take over Philly rackets", were Lucchese guys who were loyal to Amuso, as well as a few guys from the other families. But the plan never went through, which again, goes to show that Amuso's strength was waning. Now we're in 2016, it's a totally different era NOW than what it was in the 90's. I just don't find Amuso having any say in current Lucchese going on's as a very viable possibility.

Is it true that the nose was just a soldier before VB made him his acting boss??? If so it would explain why he dosen't have any respect

Gents.

For those who believe Crea is the power v Amuso?

Give up the argument for the other side will never be convinced.

For those who believe Amuso holds the true and encompassing title?

Give up the argument for the other side will never be convinced.

Let's all save ourselves the grief and stop pointlessly banging heads eh.

@SonnyBlackstein


+1, you know, no bullshit, for a long time, I actually thought Crea was fronting for Migliore, I mean the guy was at Appalachian at like 24, and supposedly was making like 50 grand a week, or a day in gambling? In the 50s? Casso tried to kill him, he was too respected, I think he knew what was up.....
But he's another example of a guy who's power and respect are out of proportion to his rank, this stuff is not set in stone its water, and these guys are playing chess in 3D.
But on the whole, if we can just stop arguing for a second and take stock, you will see that the guys in this thread knocked it out of the park, there really is no REASON for disagreement lol....

Look at that cheshire cat grin. I bet he's wishing that was a cuban dong he was smoking and not a cuban cigar.

Caramel?

My main problem with the way you write is that i'm actually interested in what you have to say, so it is incredibly annoying to read through a six paragraph post in one. Eye Cancer was an apt description.

Anyway if you took that as an insult then i should just stop. Carry on....

I think it's more laughable people think Perisco is the boss...yeah, maybe in name only, but come on, who they heck does he know on the street. you think they are asking his approval to make guys? Does he even know the heads of other families, etc.

If someone dropped or used his name people would be like "what, who, isn't he dead, etc" laughable...

Not really. If you look at his extended blood family they compromise a dominating proportion of the Columbo family.

Ridiculous post. Like one of the best posters on this forum said. 'Mobsters in jail sometimes know more then the guys on the street' It all depends if you're still relevant I guess, and Persico will be until he dies.

lol, he went to jail 30 years ago, freakin 30, who could he know?? You guys are snake fanboys if you think he knows anything, probably hasn't spoken with his son in 20 years

What can I say, the boards are starting to transform me to do their evil bidding!!

But hey man, if there was no ill intent then my apologies, like I said, I woulda edited the post, lol carry on my friend....

I'm All about stopping all the bickering....

You gotta understand how power and respect works; Think the Soprano episode where they meet the crippled, but HIGHLY respected Naples boss...



That respect alone allowed his daughter to rule basically in his stead, you should read Machiavelli, it explains a lot about the importance of family in maintaining power structures.... And passing on wealth...

yeah i dont think the persicos will ever be out of the picture. there are too many of them and even though carmine has been in jail for 30 something years his name and rep will never die. not to mention all of the cousins and inlaws that are involved. there will always be a persico helping the colombos even if they aren't directly in the administration, whatever admin is in place is set to help the persico's interests and bottom line. carmine and even his son may not know whats going on day to day, but one of the inlaws, cousins, nephews, grandkids, or his other "legit" son definitely do

carmine must have been an animal on the street and good to those around him, because it looks like he's had more time locked up than free; he built up his resume in a relatively short amount of time

To me this whole argument is pointless... It's part of the reason why I don't post as often as I used to, that and I'm not sitting with endless time on my hands anymore lol. I still enjoy reading everyone's posts because it's interesting to see others perspective on the life. I would wager my perspective on the life is greater than most here. I don't really have much to share that I think you guys would be interested in or i feel like my knowledge is too personal to want to comment. If I see something I know is blatantly wrong I'll speak up like I always have.

I personally don't get my feelings hurt if you guys don't believe me at all, I'm sure some of the online friends ive made have shit talked me in my absence because I don't really give two shits about someone's reputation online or off. There's several guys here who I think over exaggerating their own level of knowledge, pb and bronx aren't examples of this to me. I like them both personally and can match enough of their info personally to know their the real deal. But as i cautioned ivy, no one knows everything. The life is one big grey area. There is no good and no bad, it's eat or be eaten. A guy like porky z could have easily told people he was out when he gotten out of ft dix or whatever. I mean it's a pretty common thing. You talk to a family member or a member of the crew without a record you can hire on a job. Disinformation has been used by these guys for years, use your gut when it comes to info from these boards and anywhere else.