Interesting stuff kasparosa. So alite was a rat for all his career. Hate that piece of.. comes across like a lying a hole in every interview he does. He didn't meet anyone important don't believe a word and neither did a court. Few guys above got a crush on you from the obvious hard ons they seem to have for you lol. Keep posting your stuff about alite. Anyone that posts their "contempt" need to not read or reply to your posts.

great point about carmine..he does make big money..i just do not understand him getting pinched again..putting sand in scrape to put weight on them..he also works arms and legs in his biz

great point about carmine..he does make big money..i just do not understand him getting pinched again..putting sand in scrape to put weight on them..he also works arms and legs in his biz

I almost didn't even open this threas
Never understood why he was still trying to get over on shit.. He's living in Cleveland and had legitimate business that makes way good money. Why try to cheat it to make more money and get yourself on the radar of the Feds.. Could have ran it legitimate and continued to make good money and stay low key .. Some of these guys just can't help themselves.. They have to scheme no matter what.. Just don't get why you would take some stupid short cuts to make extra cash when you're a millionaire .. It's a marathon not a sprint..

Very well said Bobby, especially the selfish part. I would throw in insecurity and low self esteem as well. Lots of these mob guys or wanna be guys never felt adequate or felt that they were particularly good at anthing so they fool themselves into believing that they are some sort of clever criminal and then feel accepted. Who are they accepted by? For the most part, a bunch of insecure , selfish people who cant cut it in the real world. The nororiety aspect of this is also the insecurity aspect; its somehow adds to their self worth.
Not all criminals are like this but many are and you would never know it. Most are very insecure and uncomfortable outside of their very small environment.
I spent half my life searching for and exploiting angles until i basically found out anyone can get an angle, an angle is just a fancy term for cheating.
This also goes hand in hand with juice heads by the way. I was one of them as well.
By the way, your friends and loved ones who stand by always do until the day they decide they wont.

Never understood why he was still trying to get over on shit.. He's living in Cleveland and had legitimate business that makes way good money. Why try to cheat it to make more money and get yourself on the radar of the Feds.. Could have ran it legitimate and continued to make good money and stay low key .. Some of these guys just can't help themselves.. They have to scheme no matter what.. Just don't get why you would take some stupid short cuts to make extra cash when you're a millionaire .. It's a marathon not a sprint..

I almost didn't open this thread but I'm kind of glad I did because I can see how a law abiding citizen who has never been in the street life in shape, form, or fashion can wonder why the fuck a guy like carmine wouldn't just fall back and live off the legit loot he makes. You have to understand , and I'm by no means saying I'm a gangster or on the level these guys are or were at one point but I've been in the street life and I did multiple bids behind the wall. After the first time I got sent down people were baffled by how I could ever return to that life. The street guys know. But your loved ones, your girl, your legit friends look at you like a selfish prick who doesn't care about anyone but themself. And to an extent that's true but its more than that. It's like shooting dope, you're fucking addicted to the life, the hustle, the cash flow, the notoriety, etc.... Yes it is ridiculous. Yes it is selfish. But when all you know is that way of life and the game is second nature to you, you're way of thinking cannot be changed. It's like I said. A dope head will always be an addict but through treatment they can find recovery and live a sober life. Well a street guy will always see that angle or way to take advantage of someone who's vulnerable or a way to make the easy buck. To this day I can't help but think of how I can take advantage of a situation for me benefit but I catch myself and think about the consequences, how it will effect my children, my wife, and friends and family who stood by me through my bullshit over the years. Not everyone has the same heart you or I do. Not everyone cares. Carmine is like a dope fiend who won't go to detox and refuses to work on his recovery. It's all he knows and he's either too selfish or too stupid to think about the big picture and the way his decisions will effect him and the people close to him.

This might be an appropriate thread to ask this question...

I was reading over Alite's testimony during the Gotti trials and he mentions a girlfriend of Vincent gotti, Robin Lynn Vitulli, who was eventually killed. She apparently slapped Peter Gotti in public and she was found dead soon after.

Her death is confirmed, but the only witness to the case is Alite, who we all know is a compulsive liar. But in this case do you think he is telling the truth?

Tough to agree with you Kasparoza at times, on this issue from everything i have ever read or heard, scars did not know jr gotti in 85..scars and jr were made in 88..scars never mentions any woman getting killed by anyone..maybe mary bari by colombos..so you win this one big time if he says 85. if you really want to be credible, you must concede jr proffered and gave info .once you agree to that people may listen to you. i just do not see anyone liking alite on here or not thinking he made stuff up.having said that your quest to make him a villain falls flat..i do not care about that rat.or worse lying rat..which is exactly what jr admits to.he put two guys in murders they "did not" commit. another thing, alite shows his face and is out there crushing the gottis, if jrs camp stops firing back through guys like you alite burns out..the gottis are finished in the mafia..only gene has his street creds and he is damaged by jr pete vinny and richard. what i would like to see is jr and alite debate..same room..

Tough to agree with you Kasparoza at times, on this issue from everything i have ever read or heard, scars did not know jr gotti in 85..scars and jr were made in 88..scars never mentions any woman getting killed by anyone..maybe mary bari by colombos..so you win this one big time if he says 85. if you really want to be credible, you must concede jr proffered and gave info .once you agree to that people may listen to you. i just do not see anyone liking alite on here or not thinking he made stuff up.having said that your quest to make him a villain falls flat..i do not care about that rat.or worse lying rat..which is exactly what jr admits to.he put two guys in murders they "did not" commit. another thing, alite shows his face and is out there crushing the gottis, if jrs camp stops firing back through guys like you alite burns out..the gottis are finished in the mafia..only gene has his street creds and he is damaged by jr pete vinny and richard. what i would like to see is jr and alite debate..same room..

On the topic of people turning witnesses, whats the story on how Mikey Scars flipped?

From what I've read it seems like a very special circumstance where even the most loyal mobsters would have done the same...?

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