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Why is Obama so Polarizing?
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04/23/16 06:16 PM
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Seems people either love him or hate him, I haven't seen a President in my life time so polarizing. I get that if you have a Democratic president, conservatives will kind of hate on them, and vise versa, but I have never seen anything like it on Fox News, or other conservative media. I was shocked to find out recently he actually has a pretty good approval rating at the moment, after seeing a lot of fox news (I know but its entertaining with this GOP battle) I was led to believe he's the worst President ever, in the history of America. Seems the two main points that have got him hated by Conservatives is the Iran deal and Obama Care. I don't know if these are a good or bad thing. These last 8 years have kind of passed by with Obama being pretty anonymous, I remember the Clinton and Bush years well in comparison. The death of Bin Laden happened on his watch, but so did the rise of ISIS. Voters are complaining about unemployment and growth but yet he inherited an economic disaster period, and I read the economy is slowly growing. I would be interested to hear Americans views on him, like, dislike? Why is he so polarizing? Overall I think he's a good guy, he has bold ideas, but they have kind of fallen short in being realized in these 8 years. Two small things that kind of pissed me off being English, he called France America's closest ally, and he removed a bust of Churchill from the Oval office that George Bush had been given. Say what you want about Bush but I really liked the respect he showed Britain and the special relationship.
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Re: Why is Obama so Polarizing?
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04/23/16 07:54 PM
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First, Obama could burn down an orphanage on prime time TV and most blacks would vote him into a third term if they could.
Notice how the liberal international community gave him the Nobel Prize for...what was it it again? Oh yeah, being the first black president and not being George W. Bush.
The guy was totally dishonest about his position on gay marriage early on and only "evolved" once he was safely in the White House. Not that any liberals have taken him to task for his phoniness.
He's supposed to be a Constitutional scholar but packs the Supreme Court with like-minded liberals who hold the Constitution in contempt and rule according to their own liberal views.
The guy has fed into the black thuggery, defending the likes of Treyvon Martin and sending representactives to the funeral of Michael Brown.
One can partly blame Republicans for never doing anything themselves about the cost of health care in the US but Obamacare was hardly the answer.
His Iran deal is awful and another example of him being weak on international politics.
All I give him credit for is getting Bin Laden, which was just lucky timing on his part, and not being shy about using drones.
Overall Obama has been a disaster.
Oh, in the interest of facts, that story of Obama and the Churchill bust isn't true. It was on loan to Bush during his presidency and Bush returned it when it ended. Though I have no doubt Obama, with his warped world view, doesn't look kindly on Churchill.
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Re: Why is Obama so Polarizing?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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04/24/16 09:25 AM
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[quote=IvyLeague]First, Obama could burn down an orphanage on prime time TV and most blacks would vote him into a third term if they could.
The dumb shit people say(Dumbass).
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From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.
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Re: Why is Obama so Polarizing?
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04/24/16 12:46 PM
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[quote=IvyLeague]First, Obama could burn down an orphanage on prime time TV and most blacks would vote him into a third term if they could.
The dumb shit people say(Dumbass). Signed, The guy who can't use the quote function correctly.
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Re: Why is Obama so Polarizing?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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04/24/16 04:31 PM
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For most of America's history, presidents were figureheads. Congress ran what there was of the federal government, and that didn't amount to much until the Great Depression and World War II, when presidents, starting with Franklin D. Roosevelt, vastly expanded the government. The postwar era also thrust America into a global leadership position, putting more burden--and more visibility--on presidents. More recently, TV puts everything the president says and does in front of everyone, 24x7. Polarization is a natural consequence of vastly expanded role presidents play and the visibility they have.
FDR, elected four times and widely regarded by historians as one of the three greatest presidents, was far and away the most polarizing of the 20th Century chief executives. So, too, is Obama, who is the worst president of the postwar era.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Why is Obama so Polarizing?
[Re: NickyScarfo]
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04/24/16 05:00 PM
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Obama and John Kerry are no friends of the UK, kerry blocked a treaty allowing ira sympathisers to be extradicted to UK, and Obama well....you only have to read the telegraph article about him being anti british
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
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Re: Why is Obama so Polarizing?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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05/06/16 10:27 AM
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First, Obama could burn down an orphanage on prime time TV and most blacks would vote him into a third term if they could.
Notice how the liberal international community gave him the Nobel Prize for...what was it it again? Oh yeah, being the first black president and not being George W. Bush.
The guy was totally dishonest about his position on gay marriage early on and only "evolved" once he was safely in the White House. Not that any liberals have taken him to task for his phoniness.
He's supposed to be a Constitutional scholar but packs the Supreme Court with like-minded liberals who hold the Constitution in contempt and rule according to their own liberal views.
The guy has fed into the black thuggery, defending the likes of Treyvon Martin and sending representactives to the funeral of Michael Brown.
One can partly blame Republicans for never doing anything themselves about the cost of health care in the US but Obamacare was hardly the answer.
His Iran deal is awful and another example of him being weak on international politics.
All I give him credit for is getting Bin Laden, which was just lucky timing on his part, and not being shy about using drones.
Overall Obama has been a disaster.
Oh, in the interest of facts, that story of Obama and the Churchill bust isn't true. It was on loan to Bush during his presidency and Bush returned it when it ended. Though I have no doubt Obama, with his warped world view, doesn't look kindly on Churchill.
You do realize that you can be a constitutional scholar and not agree with the right wing of the court? You do understand that is a possibility?
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Re: Why is Obama so Polarizing?
[Re: mightyhealthy]
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05/07/16 07:13 PM
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When people complain about the "race card" do they not realize blacks are discriminated against?
Also Ivy, did you see my other question? Yeah I guess Blacks are the only ones being discriminated against. Muslims, Jews, Hispanics, Asians , Disabled, Transferred, Gay, all have it made. There is discrimination on all races sometimes by their very own. The Italians, Irish went through it. Just get get over it and move forward. America offers great opportunities to everyone. Either take advantage of it or just quit crying about it! For Christ sake we have a Black President and a Black Attorney General, countless Black Congressmen, Black Senators,Black CEO's, leaders and Executives, Black Millionaires so please quit playing the race card. Maybe you are not cut out for the job or are an incompetent thats why you are getting fired or replaced. It has nothing to do with race. America is the land of opportunity so go out there and seize it!
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Re: Why is Obama so Polarizing?
[Re: mightyhealthy]
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05/07/16 10:39 PM
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When people complain about the "race card" do they not realize blacks are discriminated against?
Also Ivy, did you see my other question? There will always be individual racists. But the kind of widespread institutional racism that liberals whine about, and have convinced blacks abd other minorities that it still exists in order to make them feel like victims, is long gone. The only ones who keep it alive are liberals/minorities themselves. Because now it's something they can use to their advantage. But back to the point here. MaryCas and SC know damn well Obama can be fairly criticized for any number of things. But they take the easy way out many liberals do by automatically claiming the critique is just based on his color. It's lazy and dishonest. And, generally speaking, the right wing of the Court has always held more to what the Constitution actually says while the left wing has always read more into it than what's actually there. It's where they get their "living, breathing document" BS from. Eventually, under liberal interpretation, the Constitution gets so twisted and corrupted as to be rendered meaningless.
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Re: Why is Obama so Polarizing?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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05/08/16 01:00 AM
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But back to the point here. MaryCas and SC know damn well Obama can be fairly criticized for any number of things. But they take the easy way out many liberals do by automatically claiming the critique is just based on his color. It's lazy and dishonest.  Yadda yadda yadda. BTW - the laundry called. Your sheets with the eyeholes in them are ready.
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Re: Why is Obama so Polarizing?
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05/08/16 10:31 AM
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But back to the point here. MaryCas and SC know damn well Obama can be fairly criticized for any number of things. But they take the easy way out many liberals do by automatically claiming the critique is just based on his color. It's lazy and dishonest.  Yadda yadda yadda. BTW - the laundry called. Your sheets with the eyeholes in them are ready. So we're just doubling down on the lazy cop out and dishonesty now, huh? If I was a KKK-minded person like you suggest, why do I think Dr. Ben Carson would have made a good president? Oh that's right, because he's a conservative so he doesn't count. He's not your kind of black politician. I'll be the first to say I don't think a woman should be president. But I have no problem with a black (or other minority) president if they're conservative and fit for the office. All things Obama is not.
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Re: Why is Obama so Polarizing?
[Re: NickyScarfo]
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05/13/16 03:18 AM
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Crap like this makes the question in the original post seem insane. It's one thing to watch the insanity from a distance. It's quite another when it creeps closer to home. Obama Administration Mandate Transgender School Bathroom Accesshttp://abcnews.go.com/US/obama-administr...ory?id=39081956Of course we know Obama, as misguided, foolish, and just plain stupid as he is, will back this since it was his administration that pushed for women to be in all combat roles. Senate Panel Calls for Women to Sign up for Military Drafthttp://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/senate-panel-women-register-military-draft-39081314
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