leonetti pledge allegiance to merlino are you serious? he would kill joey leonetti hated the guy and he was loyal to hsi uncle. The guy was crazy you think he would joey get away with shooting his cousin he would have probaby become scarfo sr proxy

but you can say if leonetti did not flip the entire mafia would be very different he would have never given up the castananlo murder gravano might have not flipped i know they had the tapes but leonetti was the nail in the coffin gotti might have had longer on the streets who knows what would have happened


my point this is pointless predicting he flipped we will never know what would have happened

Nah - Sammy just couldn't do the time , all that gotti bad mouthing was BS , both were getting life and would likely never see each other again anyway . Sammy never really did a long bid before and like a lot of people couldn't hack it .

Say what u want about Joey but he is way more of a wise guy then Phil would ever be . Phil couldn't hack it while Joey lives it - always

Like said above for some reason Joey had and still has a rather large group of people very loyal to him. I never fully understood why but literally a good majority of the philly guys seem to stand behind him for the last couple decades.. Especially since it seems like hes a greedy fuck as a boss and I can't see him treating the guys below him that well... Philly is really strange when it comes to lcn.. For one of the families outside my/nj they have a large amount of rather young soldiers.. The other fams outside ny literally have a few dinosaurs who make book and that's it. I mean in all the pics of Joey down in Florida he has like a 5 man crew around his restaurant with him and they're all in their 30s

John Ciancaglini was in prison during the war, serving a sentence for an extortion conviction. He returned to South Philadelphia in 1995.

"I'm considered in the middle," he told Previte, "because I had one brother on your side and one brother on the other."

Prosecutors are using the Previte tapes, which have dominated the last week of the trial, to link the defendants through their own words to mob-controlled gambling and stolen property rings. For the first time, some of the discussions played yesterday also dealt with narcotics.

But the most personal discussions were those of John Ciancaglini.

Among other things, Ciancaglini offered Previte some advice about how to conduct himself in a world where few people can be trusted and where incompetence was the hallmark of most of the so-called leaders.

"Be the man that you are," he said. "Just make yourself a little scarce. That's what I do. I mean, I'm there if anybody needs me, but I try to be as scarce as I can. I mean, you knock 20, 30 percent of our problems out."

Ciancaglini discussed the legitimate businesses he was involved in - a construction firm, a T-shirt company, and an exterminating business - and then returned to talk of his late brother Michael.

"My brother Michael was an ace," he said. "The only thing about Michael, he had a head like a rock. . . . He didn't take no [expletive]. I told him all the time: 'Wait till I come home, Mike. I got 17 months. Wait till I come home.' "

leonetti pledge allegiance to merlino are you serious? he would kill joey leonetti hated the guy and he was loyal to hsi uncle. The guy was crazy you think he would joey get away with shooting his cousin he would have probaby become scarfo sr proxy

but you can say if leonetti did not flip the entire mafia would be very different he would have never given up the castananlo murder gravano might have not flipped i know they had the tapes but leonetti was the nail in the coffin gotti might have had longer on the streets who knows what would have happened


my point this is pointless predicting he flipped we will never know what would have happened

If none flipped but the Crow then the family would have stayed in tact even with most of the leadership in prison.

Sr. most likely would have never put down for Stanfa by N.Y.

It would have gone down the line and more guys would have been made under Sr while he was in prison .

And Skinny would have never had a shot cos he would have been killed.

Everything setup for Skinny to take hold of the family and live to tell it .

And Phil and the older cats would have gotten out with there stripes...