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Re: Did Funzy Tieri dupe Gigante when he set up...
[Re: DiLorenzo]
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02/18/18 01:07 AM
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If they killed a boss without getting their bosses approval, they would have been killed right along side Caponigro !! Funzi was every bit as powerful as the Chin, whether he was top boss, front boss, under boss, whatever, he was one of the biggest guys in the country. Come on, no one in Philly was ever going to get Funzi killed, I can't believe that anyone could think otherwise. Tony Bananas was lucky to live as long as he did, Ray DeCarlo wanted him dead back in the 60's. If it weren't for Bruno's relationship with Gerry Catena and his buying Gerry's machines, as Ray said in the Jersey Mafia, he would have been dead fifteen or twenty years earlier. No one in Philly was ever going to get anyone in the Genovese top echelon killed, that was never going to happen.
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Re: Did Funzy Tieri dupe Gigante when he set up...
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If they killed a boss without getting their bosses approval, they would have been killed right along side Caponigro !! Funzi was every bit as powerful as the Chin, whether he was top boss, front boss, under boss, whatever, he was one of the biggest guys in the country. Come on, no one in Philly was ever going to get Funzi killed, I can't believe that anyone could think otherwise. Tony Bananas was lucky to live as long as he did, Ray DeCarlo wanted him dead back in the 60's. If it weren't for Bruno's relationship with Gerry Catena and his buying Gerry's machines, as Ray said in the Jersey Mafia, he would have been dead fifteen or twenty years earlier. No one in Philly was ever going to get anyone in the Genovese top echelon killed, that was never going to happen. With all due respect...who is Ray De Carlo?..it's late @ night and I dont feel like looking it up..
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Re: Did Funzy Tieri dupe Gigante when he set up...
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02/18/18 06:02 AM
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If they killed a boss without getting their bosses approval, they would have been killed right along side Caponigro !! Funzi was every bit as powerful as the Chin, whether he was top boss, front boss, under boss, whatever, he was one of the biggest guys in the country. Come on, no one in Philly was ever going to get Funzi killed, I can't believe that anyone could think otherwise. Tony Bananas was lucky to live as long as he did, Ray DeCarlo wanted him dead back in the 60's. If it weren't for Bruno's relationship with Gerry Catena and his buying Gerry's machines, as Ray said in the Jersey Mafia, he would have been dead fifteen or twenty years earlier. No one in Philly was ever going to get anyone in the Genovese top echelon killed, that was never going to happen. With all due respect...who is Ray De Carlo?..it's late @ night and I dont feel like looking it up.. A former Genovese soldier under Boiardo who was a big time loanshark. I believe it is on the 1960s white taps, where he said that Bruno and Gerry had a good relationship in that Angelo bought gambling machines from Catena.
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Re: Did Funzy Tieri dupe Gigante when he set up...
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02/19/18 06:12 PM
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For all the shit we give jimmy the weasel frant......... how the hell did he doup all the east coast bosses in 1976 that he was boss of LA. He said in his book and tesified he met the genovese at some nyc club. Funzi t fat tony chin benny squint had a vote on weather to kill some big union guy out west and they gave a thumbs up all 4 there might have bben 5 i forgot weasels book. But he was there to meet with the genovese around same time he was taken the famous photo with carlo gambino frank Sinatra and a few others. Weasel comes across as such a bullshiter in his old tv interviews. Still was kinda interesting guy just moving around the usa doing all types of mafia shit. It was Funzi, Carmine Zeccardi, Fat Tony and Chin. No Lombardo. That sitdown is interesting. Funzi was supposed to be the boss, Zeccardi was introduced as underboss, Salerno as consigliere and Chin was just there for some reason. Maybe he was the guy they were voting to kill's captain. Odd that they all took a vote on whether or not the guy should be killed instead of the boss just deciding.
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Re: Did Funzy Tieri dupe Gigante when he set up...
[Re: MightyDR]
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02/21/18 11:42 AM
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For all the shit we give jimmy the weasel frant......... how the hell did he doup all the east coast bosses in 1976 that he was boss of LA. He said in his book and tesified he met the genovese at some nyc club. Funzi t fat tony chin benny squint had a vote on weather to kill some big union guy out west and they gave a thumbs up all 4 there might have bben 5 i forgot weasels book. But he was there to meet with the genovese around same time he was taken the famous photo with carlo gambino frank Sinatra and a few others. Weasel comes across as such a bullshiter in his old tv interviews. Still was kinda interesting guy just moving around the usa doing all types of mafia shit. It was Funzi, Carmine Zeccardi, Fat Tony and Chin. No Lombardo. That sitdown is interesting. Funzi was supposed to be the boss, Zeccardi was introduced as underboss, Salerno as consigliere and Chin was just there for some reason. Maybe he was the guy they were voting to kill's captain. Odd that they all took a vote on whether or not the guy should be killed instead of the boss just deciding. Chin was voting to hit Joe (Spencer) Ullo because Ullo had stuck Chin for $200,000 in shylock money and skipped to California. Ullo was beaten over this debt inside Joes Restaurant in Greenwich Village. Ullo then left for the west coast and Chin sent Gazut to locate him, Gazut met with Ullo for a cup of coffee and Ullo shot Gazut in the head and buried him in the desert. Only Gazut's jaw bone came back to NYC.
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Re: Did Funzy Tieri dupe Gigante when he set up...
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02/23/18 08:59 AM
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If they killed a boss without getting their bosses approval, they would have been killed right along side Caponigro !! Funzi was every bit as powerful as the Chin, whether he was top boss, front boss, under boss, whatever, he was one of the biggest guys in the country. Come on, no one in Philly was ever going to get Funzi killed, I can't believe that anyone could think otherwise. Tony Bananas was lucky to live as long as he did, Ray DeCarlo wanted him dead back in the 60's. If it weren't for Bruno's relationship with Gerry Catena and his buying Gerry's machines, as Ray said in the Jersey Mafia, he would have been dead fifteen or twenty years earlier. No one in Philly was ever going to get anyone in the Genovese top echelon killed, that was never going to happen. The more I think about it I feel that Funzi and Chin used Pete Casella ( via Bobby Manna ) to kill Testa That's the reason Casella was given the pass and sent to Florida. Bobby Manna's de facto headquarters in Hoboken was " Casella's Restaurant , and Martin (Motts) Casella was part of Bobby Manna's crew. The goal was to put Nicky Scarfo in the Boss position due to Manna's personal relationship with Nicky.
wise old owl sat on a oak , the more he heard the less he spoke , the less he spoke the more he heard , wasn't that a wise ole bird.
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Re: Did Funzy Tieri dupe Gigante when he set up...
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02/23/18 09:52 AM
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That was all part of the plot , NS refuse's # 1 slot knowing that Testa will be hit and he (NS) will get the Boss slot soon. NS after becoming Boss now is concerned that Salvy will find out about this. Nicky does two year's in Texas prison and upon coming home starts the plot to kill Salvy ! Using the excuse of Salvy jilting Merlino's Daughter to conceal the hit of Phil Testa.
wise old owl sat on a oak , the more he heard the less he spoke , the less he spoke the more he heard , wasn't that a wise ole bird.
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Re: Did Funzy Tieri dupe Gigante when he set up...
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Blue you just answered ur own question. Let Phil be the Boss ( temporary ) let him feel comfortable and relaxed. If NS did not defer to Phil in the beginning and claimed the Boss slot , Testa as u stated might have been jealous and made the first strike against Nicky.
wise old owl sat on a oak , the more he heard the less he spoke , the less he spoke the more he heard , wasn't that a wise ole bird.
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Re: Did Funzy Tieri dupe Gigante when he set up...
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As far as the Derringer , Nicky was a little guy , maybe the derringer just worked for him.
wise old owl sat on a oak , the more he heard the less he spoke , the less he spoke the more he heard , wasn't that a wise ole bird.
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