The guy is toast, the cops will find him. He may even be of puerto rican heritage. Look closely, he almost looks like a PR ,
One thingnis for sure, it aint no black.

Yeah, a hat is an obvious choice here. What the hell is wrong with these people?

Back in the days,on at least 3 occasions in the Newark area....dudes from suburbs would drive around looking for young Black and Puerto Rican kids to do moving jobs. It was a pickup truck and the story was they'd pick up 8-10 teens. Drop them off somewhere and have the kids walk about 5 blocks to where the job was to be done.

Didn't realize until later that the kids were being picked to do little jobs for peanuts, but mainly there to be seen by neighbors in the areas where the work was to be done.

They were camouflage. Major home robberies(planned, well executed) of homes were going down by people's own neighbors...and the kids were brought into the neighborhood so that people would report seeing Black/Brown kids in the vicinity on the day.

That was the rumor anyway. Pay some kids 150 total...steal thousands of dollars of your neighbor's stuff.

As a guy get older they have a driver who is a body guard besides being a friend just in case even if he carries.

My wife reminded me we used to go there once in a while when the kids were young I forgot. I don't remember the pie being that good or I would have remebered.

I know of people using black people to get black people in black neighborhoods because white people would stand out hurting people in a black neighborhoods. Everyone should be able to earn some money. Plus they work for peanuts.

He looks really calm. It's like he doesn't have a care in the world and has done this sort of stuff before.

That is actually pretty smart.

Yeah everyone saying it was a botched robbery and he got scared thats why he didnt take the money...i dont think so after seeing this video. He isn't running or acting wild or strange at all, so I don't think he got spooked.

He was there to kill him.

Maybe that guy wasn't the trigger man . He could've been a spotter or like the guy above says an unknowing participant to throw off the cops. If it was a hit and they weren't stupid they probably spotted the cameras In the neighborhood.

As everyone is saying, lack of a hat-- most likely a New Era fitted and he'd fit right in-- is very weird. Otherwise kid could be Italian-Am too.

It's unclear however if the video is from before or after the hit.

I've still seen zero evidence or even a reasonable suggestion re: robbery. Nothing about that suggestion makes sense unless cops are hoding back on evidence of some struggle.

Yea I mean idk how anyone can think its a robbery if the guy still has the 10k on him? I mean that fact alone would lead one to think it was a mob hit, seeing as countless other hits made guys were whacked and always had their money still on them when it was a hit..I know not ever instance but a high majority of the time...

Still havent heard anyone detail any more of Barbatis Columbo connections? Does anyone think it was the Bonnano family in retaliation for that stupid Pizza sauce beef from 2012?

Unless im missing something, that video looks like it was BEFORE the shooting, not after.

You are correct and FYI in the article it does state that the video is from before the shooting

Still surprising how fast they concluded that it was a failed robbery. How would they know? Hmmmm........

Seen the video the guys clearly white probaly fresh from prison as hes wearing a pair of saggy jorts ala dmx 99. Hit maybe. Jordans. Pair of hater blockers. Any one think hes wearing laytex gloves? Surprised he didnt get cught yet as a tv nerd the first 48 is up and not many leads. Hes probaly in jail on some bullshit charge till they cn get him on murder.

Im still sticking to my robbery thesis.
What kind of person leaves the money after shooting the guy? An idiot !

Also, for the aspiring hitmen on this board, those camera's are another reason why being a hitman is a poor career choice.

I betting every house on that street have them web cams on the porch. Im mean the pics clear anyone thats knows the shooter should recognize the snekers and jorts the haircut and glasses surprised theres not a 10k reward dude would be caught the second that picture leaked. Also if a hit why not kill bim the second he got out the car why wait till he gets to the home. Or stick him up once he got out the car conflicting theorys. The colombos killed the cop rite infront the house speking of which wonder when that cop killer big dino gets sentenced. The feds have been holding that off forever dude flipped 8yrs ago and didnt get 1 conviction for the cops murder but him admitting it. Plus he killed a 5 other people. They sentenced that guy caves to i think 12 yrs. But then that crazy guy in bk killed the 2 cops last summer nd this big dino story disappeared.

There is a $50K reward for info leading to the suspect.

@Foot and Ted,

yeah it was a smart scheme to use the kids as interference while doing major robbery in the same area.I'd bet money that the guys who planned it would later lead the "these g-damn Black guys" rants after the neighbors returned to a ransacked house.
Cops chalk it up to outsiders and the guy gets away with it.

Gotta respect the plan.

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About this case, something else doesn't add up. This picture appears to be taken in broad daylight. Even if you factor in that it's light out until 7pm.

What time would the deceased have been bringing home the day's take?

Don't these food places stay open late...especially during the summer?
NY banks have late hours at least once a week,it doesn't add up that one of these "6 times a year hauls" wouldn't be deposited during banking hours.

Are we supposed to assume the guy on camera was staking out the deceased's home for HOURS before the attack for a robbery and then panics and leaves without the money?

Let's follow this...

OK so now according to the video, the shooter in Dyker before the hit.

Presumably there's getaway footage too that hasn't been released or even entirely reviewed.

** IF ** (a huge if) it's a robbery, who tipped the heist / hitman off?

Someone at L&B or staking it out nearby in Gravesend?

Robbery had to have an inside man whereas 'just' a hit that's not necessary.

Chance the shooter did surveillance and beat Barbati home himself = almost zero.

L&B was closed yesterday for the funeral / in memory of Louis btw but open all other days and nights since.

Or someone who wasn't there for the money in the first place?

I dunno what to think of this story. It seems hard to believe a mob hit would go down like this in 2016.

On the other hand we have a victim with a history of some sort of relationship with the mob. That had indirectly caused conflict with the 2 factions most likely to do a dumb hit like this in the modern age.

I also have a hard time believing that some stickup artist like this would shoot at a guy a minimum of 4-5 times out of panic. Especially shooting him in the back. That doesn't make sense. But shooting someone doesn't make sense to me either.

I just don't know. If I had to lean one way or the other, I'd say he was clipped for a reason. That's why so many shots were fired at him and that's why the money was left at the scene. I also can't fathom how some stickup artist could afford to drive a Lexus.

I do agree that a hitman in NYC, in 2016, seems like a real bad line or work to be in. Cameras everywhere, everythimg is recorded. I feel like you would have to kill people in isolated areas and if they came in person vehicles you would be screwed.

If he was out there smoking cigarettes prior to the murder, couldnt they get his dna from the butts? Maybe the guy was shipped over from Italy. The way he carries himself, looks like he isnt too worried. Multiple gunshots to make sure hes dead, yet not too professional. A couple to the head rather than a scattered pattern. Mustve been ameture night.

I know one thing its real easy with a little practice to add to or learn how to make a life like silicone or latex masks theses days and if there are any young guys out there with a line of work like that the first thing I would do L is know how to make theses masks .


There are way too many cameras and telephones out there !!!

But if there is no DNA in their system to match it to, it's worthless unless they find the perp and get a court order for his DNA.

As for the comment about this not being a mob hit since it's 2016, just look to Philly for the hit Nicodemo was in on. Broad daylight in the middle of South Philly and a mailman gives them the tag number and car which they still find at Nicodemo's with the gun inside. We are not always dealing with the "brightest" bulbs in the box here.

Any new updates ?

My co-workers that live in the neighborhood told me FBI Agents are canvassing the neighborhood as well as NYPD Detectives, take that for what it's worth that the Detectives on the case are not just NYPD Homicide Squad Detectives from whichever precinct that jurisdiction falls under....

Ohhhh man FBI. I wish I knew what info they had that we don't .

Ok so the fbi involved its not a robbery. I read this site for years the mob wives guy who killed some one in a robbery in bk there was a colombo guy with him and the whole case was him smoking butts outside of the robbery spot. The dna killed his trial. So no ones doing a robbery smoking butts. Think it was big angs cousin or the guy died. Sc said on page one its a hit guess its a hit. The 50k reward didnt get him thats shocking in my book. But to eliminate the colombos this looks bad for michael persicos sentencing his family wouldnt do him like that. Guy been fighting the sentcing for 5 yrs. Hes gonna pull a tom brady and except his fate.