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Re: Would Big Paul have flipped?
[Re: JackieAprile]
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10/07/16 04:13 PM
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Yeah but I mean...Paul had gotten used to a certain standard of living, of being THE BOSS with his big mansion, live in maid and he treasured above all his credibility as a businessman. I mean, this is a guy who wouldn't even go to the funeral of his Underboss for fear of it touching his reputation as a legitimate businessman. He wasn't a guy who had done much time in prison (I think his longest stretch was 3 months in the 1930s?), so it's not like doing time came naturally to him.
It's easy to say "Fuck the Feds" in the early stretch of a trial but look at Gravano. On the streets Gravano had balls of steel, probably the last guy you'd expect to flip but when faced with a certain sentence of "from now on"...He couldn't stand the heat.
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Re: Would Big Paul have flipped?
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I don't see him flipping. All those old school guys would've never flipped..From Bonanno to Castellano. Bonanno wrote a book. Which to me is in the same ballpack as flipping. It's talking about things and people you swore an oath never to talk about with outsiders.
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Re: Would Big Paul have flipped?
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Re: Would Big Paul have flipped?
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10/09/16 03:46 PM
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julianni says it was bonannos book that proved there was a commission, and that because of this he prosecuted the bosses
under the rico law. so in a sense joe bonanno gave julianni ammunition to prosecute. he should have not written that book. exposing the existence of the commission. In effect, Bonanno had the last laugh on the Commission, which had rule in '63 that he was no longer boss of his own family, and installed Gaspar diGregorio in his place. RICO became law in '70, so Bonanno probably knew about it. But, I doubt that he published his autobiography, with those passages about the Commission, deliberately to launch a RICO case. Giuliani, BTW, is a major "Godfather" fan, and his interest in prosecuting the Mafia may have been stimulated by that.
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Re: Would Big Paul have flipped?
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10/14/16 07:09 AM
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As for a plan when he went to prison in capecis 1996 book on the rise and fall of gotti he says that paul had orginally told neil before he died that he was going to make a ruling panel with john gotti, tommy gambino and Thomas Bilotti gotti was angry at that believeing he deserved full control of the family
i think thats bs paul was going to whack john and break his crew up i really dont think he would ever give john that power
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Re: Would Big Paul have flipped?
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I've wondered that a fear was that Big Paul loved his luxurious lifestyle too much to do prison time, and that, as he was 70, he was basically looking at dying in prison no matter what the sentence was. The fear as such was that he'd flip to avoid spending his last years in a prison cell.
My question to you is, if Paul wasn't clipped, would he have flipped? The answer is no. The reason for that is Castellano wouldn't have been given the opportunity. When Walter Mack headed up the investigations, the goal was to wipe out the mafia, turn Mulberry Street into a ghost town. Then Giuliani swooped in and appropriated the helm of the investigation for himself. The main change Giuliani made was to shift the targets of the investigation to only the top people, AKA the bosses, and then name it "The Commission Case". Originally, countless gangsters were probably going to be arrested all at once. After Giuliani you have a case being made against 6 or so individuals. Therefore Big Paul wasn't going to be offered a deal, and I doubt he would have taken it. He was too close to Carlo and the old school to flip like Massino did. Giuliani protected the mafia.
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