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Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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10/15/16 03:04 PM
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Spinning this thread off from another thread "State of the Family."
My opinion is the Colombo Crime Family of 2016 is on par with the DeCavalcante Family. Carmine Persico has waged a 40 year war against his own crime family. He is the Pol Pot of Mob Bosses. Anyone with talent or leadership was killed or is locked away in prison for life fighting him. He's destroyed the family for his own gain and they are a shell of a family.
What is left? 100 members according to some people. My opinion based just what I read is maybe 50-60 members in jail or on the street and "active." Not semi-retired or doing life.
Here is the real question: Who is the future talent? Who is the next boss? Who is the Steve Crea, Barney Bellomo or Frank Cali of The Colombos? I would like to hear.
Seems to me this family is just treading water until Carmine dies. Then who takes over? Another Persico relative? Skinny Teddy is doing life on the installment plan. He's not boss material.
Anyone with talent, leadership or strength was murdered by The Persico's, doing life in prison or a long sentence (Tommy Shots, etc) or is in Witness Protection. Seems to me all that is left are Dumbfellas and Oldfellas. The Columbo's are not the West Side or Gambino's. They are the Philly Mob circa 1991 John Stanfa era.
Yes, I am a new member to this forum. I am a 25 year LCN aficionado and would like to hear the opinions of the seasoned members of this forum. Respectfully, of course.
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Re: Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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10/15/16 04:34 PM
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Spinning this thread off from another thread "State of the Family."
My opinion is the Colombo Crime Family of 2016 is on par with the DeCavalcante Family. Carmine Persico has waged a 40 year war against his own crime family. He is the Pol Pot of Mob Bosses. Anyone with talent or leadership was killed or is locked away in prison for life fighting him. He's destroyed the family for his own gain and they are a shell of a family.
What is left? 100 members according to some people. My opinion based just what I read is maybe 50-60 members in jail or on the street and "active." Not semi-retired or doing life.
Here is the real question: Who is the future talent? Who is the next boss? Who is the Steve Crea, Barney Bellomo or Frank Cali of The Colombos? I would like to hear.
Seems to me this family is just treading water until Carmine dies. Then who takes over? Another Persico relative? Skinny Teddy is doing life on the installment plan. He's not boss material.
Anyone with talent, leadership or strength was murdered by The Persico's, doing life in prison or a long sentence (Tommy Shots, etc) or is in Witness Protection. Seems to me all that is left are Dumbfellas and Oldfellas. The Columbo's are not the West Side or Gambino's. They are the Philly Mob circa 1991 John Stanfa era.
Yes, I am a new member to this forum. I am a 25 year LCN aficionado and would like to hear the opinions of the seasoned members of this forum. Respectfully, of course. We can go over this again and again. I have no idea where you could get the idea the Colombos are comparable to the present day DeCavalcantes or Philadelphia in the early 1990s. Nobody said they're on par with the Genovese or Gambino families. But even if the Colombos are the weakest family in NY, and they arguably are, they're still heads and shoulders above New Jersey who is at the bottom of the 9 families still considered viable. Again, most estimates put the family at approximately 100 or so total members. Yes, a good chunk of that is in prison or otherwise inactive but that applies to every family. I could post a list of cases over the past 15 years - though I resent having to often do people's homework for them - that shows the Colombos have continued to be active in illegal gambling, loansharking, extortion, drug trafficking, fraud, as well as labor/business racketeering in the construction industry.
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Re: Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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10/15/16 05:39 PM
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You are right. I Agree with you. We could go over this again and again. You count old retired members, men in prison for life and RATS in the membership rolls.
In reality...it's a different story. An 85 year old made member in Florida who wears a diaper and sits on the beach all day is a member of the Cololmbos. Maybe in 1960 that guy had power. But in 2016 he's washed up and broke.
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Re: Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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This is more what I think of the Colombo's. The Underboss lived in a fucking trailer park like a redneck in Arkansas. And he got food stamps. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ps-trailer.html
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Re: Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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10/15/16 06:29 PM
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You are right. I Agree with you. We could go over this again and again. You count old retired members, men in prison for life and RATS in the membership rolls.
In reality...it's a different story. An 85 year old made member in Florida who wears a diaper and sits on the beach all day is a member of the Cololmbos. Maybe in 1960 that guy had power. But in 2016 he's washed up and broke.
Where did I ever mention rats? Unlike those in prison or inactive (who remain mwmbers), guys who flip aren't considered in the equation. We can just go by active members on the street if you want but that's hard to do because the number is always in flux and you also have to consider associates in terms of total manpower. Again, the Colombos continue to have a functioning hierarchy that has shown the ability to fill positions despite repeated indictments, the ability to make new members, and ongoing activity. Back during the war in the early 1990s, we saw predictions of the family close to being finished due to indictments, rats, and internal fighting. 25 years later they are still around. So I don't know what you're trying to say. Are a good chunk of the Colombos in prison, old and infirm, or just inactive? Yeah. But why aren't you saying the same thing about every other family?
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Re: Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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10/16/16 12:10 AM
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You are right. I Agree with you. We could go over this again and again. You count old retired members, men in prison for life and RATS in the membership rolls.
In reality...it's a different story. An 85 year old made member in Florida who wears a diaper and sits on the beach all day is a member of the Cololmbos. Maybe in 1960 that guy had power. But in 2016 he's washed up and broke.
Where did I ever mention rats? Unlike those in prison or inactive (who remain mwmbers), guys who flip aren't considered in the equation. We can just go by active members on the street if you want but that's hard to do because the number is always in flux and you also have to consider associates in terms of total manpower. Again, the Colombos continue to have a functioning hierarchy that has shown the ability to fill positions despite repeated indictments, the ability to make new members, and ongoing activity. Back during the war in the early 1990s, we saw predictions of the family close to being finished due to indictments, rats, and internal fighting. 25 years later they are still around. So I don't know what you're trying to say. Are a good chunk of the Colombos in prison, old and infirm, or just inactive? Yeah. But why aren't you saying the same thing about every other family? Speaking of which do we have a handle on who the street acting boss, UB, Consigliere are at the moment? Not carmine or allie, i mean who is on the atreet now? And id be interested to onow how many capos they have currently (furio please dont copy and paste Wikipedia).... Giacomo posted Dennis Delucia as a possibility as the future boss i think is a very good guess. I asked about him a while back and did some research on him.. hes a big time earner in that fam, is absolutely well respected ny other fams evidenced by his dealings with other families and I think hes tied into construction and whatever union influence they still have.. i think for sure hes future admin if not boss Also billybrizzi's post of Andy Russos son I think is spot on... Billy is one of the best posters here who always has excellent knowledge and based on what ive read and other knowledgeable guys here have said he's definitely someone on the rise who would be boss material plus hes a Persico relative I believe..tho enuff removed to not be a dipshit LE target hopefully
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Re: Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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10/16/16 05:30 AM
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You are right. I Agree with you. We could go over this again and again. You count old retired members, men in prison for life and RATS in the membership rolls.
In reality...it's a different story. An 85 year old made member in Florida who wears a diaper and sits on the beach all day is a member of the Cololmbos. Maybe in 1960 that guy had power. But in 2016 he's washed up and broke.
Where did I ever mention rats? Unlike those in prison or inactive (who remain mwmbers), guys who flip aren't considered in the equation. We can just go by active members on the street if you want but that's hard to do because the number is always in flux and you also have to consider associates in terms of total manpower. Again, the Colombos continue to have a functioning hierarchy that has shown the ability to fill positions despite repeated indictments, the ability to make new members, and ongoing activity. Back during the war in the early 1990s, we saw predictions of the family close to being finished due to indictments, rats, and internal fighting. 25 years later they are still around. So I don't know what you're trying to say. Are a good chunk of the Colombos in prison, old and infirm, or just inactive? Yeah. But why aren't you saying the same thing about every other family? Speaking of which do we have a handle on who the street acting boss, UB, Consigliere are at the moment? Not carmine or allie, i mean who is on the atreet now? And id be interested to onow how many capos they have currently (furio please dont copy and paste Wikipedia).... Giacomo posted Dennis Delucia as a possibility as the future boss i think is a very good guess. I asked about him a while back and did some research on him.. hes a big time earner in that fam, is absolutely well respected ny other fams evidenced by his dealings with other families and I think hes tied into construction and whatever union influence they still have.. i think for sure hes future admin if not boss Also billybrizzi's post of Andy Russos son I think is spot on... Billy is one of the best posters here who always has excellent knowledge and based on what ive read and other knowledgeable guys here have said he's definitely someone on the rise who would be boss material plus hes a Persico relative I believe..tho enuff removed to not be a dipshit LE target hopefully (furio please dont copy and paste Wikipedia).... Mikey I dont copied wikipedia,I only said that after Carmine Persico death,his son allie boy will be the next boss,I also think that andy russo'son can be the next boss,because in the colombos there too many men blood related with persico,so a boss that have no blood ties with carmine couldnt take the family,but is my opinion.
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Re: Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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10/16/16 10:44 AM
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The Claw is not broke, it is an old ploy. Toms River is hardly ever mentioned when talking about Colombo family in New Jersey, however, the guy in Holmdel is mentioned a lot but he is definitely retired, but his son seems to have an active role in some family businesses in the states and abroad.
Dennis DeLuca is a good bet, and the reason I say that is he is a great earner in the family, did not backdown from supporting his lesbian daughter, during sit downs, he is fair even if it means the Colombo family losses some money in it, he sticks up for his soldiers until there is strong evidence that the guy did some wrong.
Joe is another one to think about, due how close he is to the Bonanno, Gambino and Lucchese crime families, plus his dealings with the Genovese family.
I did not mention Billy Russo cause he is related to the Persicos, and if you continue to look at that family most of the time, you tend to overlook other mobsters in the family who have high caliber in leadership positions. Billy Russo has a strong chance of running the Colombo family one day.
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Re: Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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10/16/16 06:11 PM
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Serp you see or hear anything about mike persico sentencing was surposed to be last month must have got another continuence. That family will keep trucking along. With all the guys in prison probaly easy to find recruits. Yea Pmac I posted when he was supposed to go according to a family member and yes something came up I have not heard anymore. I was told it was for the last week of September or first week of October .
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Re: Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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10/16/16 06:52 PM
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You go for it as well Moe, pair of you are genuine weirdo's Says the guy from Nottingham. How is Brexit working out for you? We might have the Devil himself becoming the next president of the United States, but you all have the biggest wanker in the world next in line for the British throne. SC, I will not apologize for that statement.
"I have this Nightmare. I'm on 5th avenue watching the St. Patrick's Day parade and I have a coronary and nine thousand cops march happily over my body." Chief Sidney Green
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Re: Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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10/16/16 07:51 PM
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You go for it as well Moe, pair of you are genuine weirdo's Have you tried decaf?
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Re: Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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10/17/16 01:11 AM
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Who stepped up for DeRoss?I don't think he was related to Carmine,but he's married to Charlie Moose's sister.
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Re: Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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10/17/16 02:43 AM
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You go for it as well Moe, pair of you are genuine weirdo's Says the guy from Nottingham. How is Brexit working out for you? We might have the Devil himself becoming the next president of the United States, but you all have the biggest wanker in the world next in line for the British throne. SC, I will not apologize for that statement. What the fuck are you talking about? What has brexit got to do with the Royal family. Its 2016 they have no power and only real reason for them is they make tourism British people chose Brexit 52% probably was a mistake but no one forced them the government was saying Brexit would be a bad thing. Not going to post on this thread till I saw that can't believe some people still believe that bullshit
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Re: Colombo Crime Family: 2016
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10/17/16 08:17 AM
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Who stepped up for DeRoss?I don't think he was related to Carmine,but he's married to Charlie Moose's sister. They are related . Unless they just said it when they were growing up could of been by marriage also .
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