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Re: How does a consigliere earn?
[Re: carlitosway]
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11/01/16 03:18 AM
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A consigliere is anyone the Don wants to appoint as consigliere. He can be a stand-alone, meaning that his full time job is to counsel the Don (in which case he gets some of the money kicked upstairs to the Don), or he can have his own regime, and keep it while he advises the Don. In a FBI tape of Gotti, he says to Sammy da Bull: "Do you want to be consigliere or underboss--whatever makes you feel good." Whatever he was, Da Bull continued to pursue his own rackets, which made Gotti jealous.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: How does a consigliere earn?
[Re: mulberry]
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11/02/16 02:34 AM
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A boss can name anyone he wants, but he won't. The underboss and consigliere will almost always be capos who have their own crews. They will always keep their own rackets but may have others run it for them. Scarfo was a special case since he was very wealthy from running AC and was backed by the Genovese I agree with that except Scarfo wasn't really that wealthy. After the Bruno hit there were several high ranking guys that got killed also, which moved Scarfo that much closer. Due to Scarfo's close ties with Bobby Manna, the Genovese advised Testa when making him boss to make Scarfo either Underboss or Consigliere. Scarfo would jump over his Captain in this case Freddy Iezzi. Scarfo was surprised Testa made Casella underboss and Scarfo Consigliere. I think Testa was trying to throw a bone and make a peaceful transition. It ended up costing his life. Philly is really an exception to the rule. Scarfo was made Boss and he chose soldier Chuckie Merlino as his UB and Frank Monte as consigliere. Inside the NY Families this is very rare. Only a few occasions that I know where a soldier is made Consigliere.
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Re: How does a consigliere earn?
[Re: JackieAprile]
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11/04/16 08:57 AM
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The traditional view of the consigliere is a semi-retired, older member of the family, who acts as an adviser and weighs in when required.
However, in recent years the role has become more hands-on. For example, Bobby Vernace, Tom Farese, Jo Jo Corozzo, Joe Carisi, Joel Cacace, Ralph Lombardo, Anthony Graziano, Anthony Rabito, George Borgesi, Steve Vitabile, etc. have all been involved in running direct operations through the family.
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Re: How does a consigliere earn?
[Re: Parisi]
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11/04/16 03:35 PM
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The traditional view of the consigliere is a semi-retired, older member of the family, who acts as an adviser and weighs in when required.
However, in recent years the role has become more hands-on. For example, Bobby Vernace, Tom Farese, Jo Jo Corozzo, Joe Carisi, Joel Cacace, Ralph Lombardo, Anthony Graziano, Anthony Rabito, George Borgesi, Steve Vitabile, etc. have all been involved in running direct operations through the family. ^ This sums it up. I will add that, as a member of the administration, the consigliere is traditionally entitled to tribute just as the boss and underboss are.
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Re: How does a consigliere earn?
[Re: JackieAprile]
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11/04/16 04:24 PM
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^ the only family that I have personal knowledge of, Pittsburgh, I know what Ivy posted was the case.
"Never walk in a room that you don't know how to get out of"- Henry Zottola
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