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Re: And now will be the Trump-apocalypse ...
[Re: furio_from_naples]
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11/09/16 11:21 PM
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Now I'm waiting for see Hillary Clinton in jail,the ku klu klan that march on washington and the building of the wall on the mexican border.
Furio, keep in mind that the federal government is currently funded through a Continuing Resolution, but only through early December. Work on an FY 2017 budget should renew shortly now that the election is over. If such a budget is passed, it is unlikely to contain any of President-elect Trump's budget priorities. Also keep in mind that Democrats gained another Senate seat. Combined with the 2 independent Senators who caucus with the Democrats, they have 49 of the Senate's 100 seats. That will make it difficult for Republicans to add any Trump-inspired budget items. Noone knows what it's like to be President until they are President. It's only then that they realize the enormous challenge it is to govern effectively. Party affiliation is no guarantee of Presidential legislative success.
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Re: And now will be the Trump-apocalypse ...
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11/14/16 12:03 AM
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From a European perspective I think this could be good for the USA. Believe me you don't want to go down the road we went.
It's not good in Europe anymore, we are enduring an illegal immigration crisis which is creating incredible strife and division in society. Countries like France are on the verge of voting Far Right.
People have had enough, they are tired of their legitimate fears and concerns being ignored by politicians. The EU an overbearing undemocratic Union is beginning to shows signs of this strain. It's not inconceivable that the entire experiment could fall apart in the next decade. In Europe the political spectrum is different. For them, Communists are Left-wing and the socialists are Center-Left. Anyone who criticizes the socialists are considered Far Right. In the USA, the Far Right is the racist Right, and includes the KKK and Neo-Nazis, while most Republicans are Center-Right to Right. The Democrats consider themselves centrists, although it is really the old Kennedy Democrats who were centrists. Most Democrats today are Progressives on the Far Left and follow in the footsteps of the Frankfurt School and people like Herbert Marcuse and Saul Alinsky. All critics of Islamism are considered Far Right over in Europe, and they can even send people to prison for criticizing Islam. Very little freedom in Europe unless you don't say anything but what the Left wants you to say.
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Re: And now will be the Trump-apocalypse ...
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11/14/16 12:51 AM
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From a European perspective I think this could be good for the USA. Believe me you don't want to go down the road we went.
It's not good in Europe anymore, we are enduring an illegal immigration crisis which is creating incredible strife and division in society. Countries like France are on the verge of voting Far Right.
People have had enough, they are tired of their legitimate fears and concerns being ignored by politicians. The EU an overbearing undemocratic Union is beginning to shows signs of this strain. It's not inconceivable that the entire experiment could fall apart in the next decade. In Europe the political spectrum is different. For them, Communists are Left-wing and the socialists are Center-Left. Anyone who criticizes the socialists are considered Far Right. In the USA, the Far Right is the racist Right, and includes the KKK and Neo-Nazis, while most Republicans are Center-Right to Right. The Democrats consider themselves centrists, although it is really the old Kennedy Democrats who were centrists. Most Democrats today are Progressives on the Far Left and follow in the footsteps of the Frankfurt School and people like Herbert Marcuse and Saul Alinsky. All critics of Islamism are considered Far Right over in Europe, and they can even send people to prison for criticizing Islam. Very little freedom in Europe unless you don't say anything but what the Left wants you to say. That might be true, but most working middle class people like myself don't see ourselves left, right, up or down. We just want good jobs and a fair shake to support our families no matter what the media or politicians label us as. That is why you saw a lot of people who voted for Obama, voted for Trump this year. Those that voted Obama just wanted change and they bought into it. Unfortunately, he didn't do anything to create more jobs and made health insurance premiums go up over 100 percent. They can only shove so much crap down the working middle class throats before they push back. We give a lot. Black Democrat President that might change America, all aboard we will give it a shot. All we got was another politician that promoted his liberal agenda with all the LBGT, and boys using girls bathrooms. And honestly if he had just focused 25 percent on the jobs and economy of the U.S. most working class people wouldn't have gave a damn. Instead Obama put liberal agenda priorities head above shoulders over creating jobs. Well, this is what happens when we push back. Trump as President, Republican majority in the House and Senate. Hell my stock I invested in Caterpillar in 401k went up from 84 to 93 dollars so I gained a nice 5 figures. I'm happy with Trump already. This week we've worked the first Sunday we've worked in 6 years. It won't take long for all industries across America to reap the affect of the Trump presidency.
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Re: And now will be the Trump-apocalypse ...
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11/14/16 12:57 AM
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That is why you saw a lot of people who voted for Obama, voted for Trump this year. No, you didn't see that. Because it didn't happen. Also, Trump didn't even get as many votes as Romney or McCain.
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Re: And now will be the Trump-apocalypse ...
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11/14/16 01:02 AM
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That is why you saw a lot of people who voted for Obama, voted for Trump this year. No, you didn't see that. Because it didn't happen. Also, Trump didn't even get as many votes as Romney or McCain. Yes it did. Elliot County KY. A county Obama won twice and Republican leader Mitch McConnel-R KY never won even once in his 31 years in the Senate. Yet, Elliot county went Trump by a landslide. 70 percent backed Trump in a county Obama won twice.Link....................http://www.abcfoxmontana.com/story/33696641/trump-country-democratic-elliott-county-ky-by-23-points
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Re: And now will be the Trump-apocalypse ...
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11/14/16 01:24 AM
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So, in one county, in the entire country, that happened.
Consider my point standing. No, you said it didn't happen. I just proved that it did. Elliot County was a microcosm of what happened. Trump as President-Elect proves my point of people that voted Obama last 2 times voted for Trump. That being said, explain how in 2012 Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida all went to Obama, but in 2016 they all went to Trump. The white rural racists come out in force? Please explain?? No need. People in these states voted for Obama in 2012 and went to Trump in 2016. But if you want to give it a shot bud go ahead.
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Re: And now will be the Trump-apocalypse ...
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11/14/16 01:29 AM
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You proved that it happened in one single county, after implying it happened nation wide or something.
The turnout for Trump was weak.
Not to mention Hillary slaughtered him in the popular vote. So weak it got him elected??Bahahahaha.
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Re: And now will be the Trump-apocalypse ...
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11/14/16 01:58 AM
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Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I forgot. Your link doesn't prove the people who voted for Trump in those districts voted for Obama in '08 or '12. I think this whole thing about Obama voters going Trump is just something you wish to believe, that has little to no basis. Sorry, but my computer's java script must be malfunctioning. I haven't gotten a singe link to back up your sources. You know credible news agencies have to show sources right? Otherwise is all just conjecture and their own views pressed upon the public. Please post your sources again just in case my computer has a glitch.
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Re: And now will be the Trump-apocalypse ...
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11/14/16 01:59 AM
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Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I forgot. Your link doesn't prove the people who voted for Trump in those districts voted for Obama in '08 or '12. I think this whole thing about Obama voters going Trump is just something you wish to believe, that has little to no basis. The Basis is Trump won those 5 states that Obama won in 2012. Still waiting for you to explain that phenomenon. Crickets?????
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Re: And now will be the Trump-apocalypse ...
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11/14/16 02:02 AM
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Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I forgot. Your link doesn't prove the people who voted for Trump in those districts voted for Obama in '08 or '12. I think this whole thing about Obama voters going Trump is just something you wish to believe, that has little to no basis. Actually I think it has a little basis. 5 people I talked to who voted for Trump, had also voted for Obama his first time, two of those voted for Barack twice. Only in my area, and the numbers are low, yes, but it does show there is some basis for that, but it is also the other way as well, one woman voted Republican her whole life and voted for Hillary, a guy voted for McCain and Romney, but voted for Hillary.
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Re: And now will be the Trump-apocalypse ...
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11/14/16 02:12 AM
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Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I forgot. Your link doesn't prove the people who voted for Trump in those districts voted for Obama in '08 or '12. I think this whole thing about Obama voters going Trump is just something you wish to believe, that has little to no basis. Actually I think it has a little basis. 5 people I talked to who voted for Trump, had also voted for Obama his first time, two of those voted for Barack twice. Only in my area, and the numbers are low, yes, but it does show there is some basis for that, but it is also the other way as well, one woman voted Republican her whole life and voted for Hillary, a guy voted for McCain and Romney, but voted for Hillary. That was a fair assessment. I don't have blinders on. I would agree that some that voted for McCain/Romney voted for Hillary this year. That is a valid point.
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Re: And now will be the Trump-apocalypse ...
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11/14/16 02:13 AM
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What would you like to see my sources in regards to, Yates? Anything you have. Show us your strongest source to support your opinion.
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Re: And now will be the Trump-apocalypse ...
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11/14/16 02:18 AM
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For which specific point, yates? I've made several. Point out a specific argument I've made (that I've declared as fact), and I'll provide my source. I provided 2 links to back up my statement that you said were false. Provide links to say my statement and the links I have provided are indeed false for starters.
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