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Re: Michael franseze crew
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Re: Michael franseze crew
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Not for more. http://www.cosanostranews.com/2011/03/nothing-personal-debuts-with-story-of.htmlLarry (Champagne) Carrozza--a Brooklyn embalmer with a taste for the good life, including his trademark champagne--once was Franzese's best friend. They drank together and gambled in Las Vegas together. Carrozza was the godfather of three of Franzese's children, and he was the godfather of one of Carrozza's. But in 1983, Franzese learned that Carrozza, a married man, was having an affair with Franzese's sister and had become involved with drugs. Franzese said the mob had discovered both and had ordered Carrozza's assassination. In his book, Franzese says he tried to warn his friend, but that Carrozza ignored him." On May 20, 1983, Carrozza's body was found with one bullet hole behind his right ear. Police noticed that, because there were no signs indicative of a struggle, the killer likely was someone Carrozza knew and trusted. "Franzese says he did not do it. Some agents and prosecutors wonder about that," the LA Times reported. In his autobiography, Franzese, seen above, wrote that many blamed him for the murder, some because his father, John "Sonny" Franzese, allegedly ordered it. Michael Franzese has never been charged in that or any other killing.
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Re: Michael franseze crew
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Not for more. http://www.cosanostranews.com/2011/03/nothing-personal-debuts-with-story-of.htmlLarry (Champagne) Carrozza--a Brooklyn embalmer with a taste for the good life, including his trademark champagne--once was Franzese's best friend. They drank together and gambled in Las Vegas together. Carrozza was the godfather of three of Franzese's children, and he was the godfather of one of Carrozza's. But in 1983, Franzese learned that Carrozza, a married man, was having an affair with Franzese's sister and had become involved with drugs. Franzese said the mob had discovered both and had ordered Carrozza's assassination. In his book, Franzese says he tried to warn his friend, but that Carrozza ignored him." On May 20, 1983, Carrozza's body was found with one bullet hole behind his right ear. Police noticed that, because there were no signs indicative of a struggle, the killer likely was someone Carrozza knew and trusted. "Franzese says he did not do it. Some agents and prosecutors wonder about that," the LA Times reported. In his autobiography, Franzese, seen above, wrote that many blamed him for the murder, some because his father, John "Sonny" Franzese, allegedly ordered it. Michael Franzese has never been charged in that or any other killing. Ive waited for your comment  Thanks. Do you maybe know about members in his crew ?
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Re: Michael franseze crew
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Not for more. http://www.cosanostranews.com/2011/03/nothing-personal-debuts-with-story-of.htmlLarry (Champagne) Carrozza--a Brooklyn embalmer with a taste for the good life, including his trademark champagne--once was Franzese's best friend. They drank together and gambled in Las Vegas together. Carrozza was the godfather of three of Franzese's children, and he was the godfather of one of Carrozza's. But in 1983, Franzese learned that Carrozza, a married man, was having an affair with Franzese's sister and had become involved with drugs. Franzese said the mob had discovered both and had ordered Carrozza's assassination. In his book, Franzese says he tried to warn his friend, but that Carrozza ignored him." On May 20, 1983, Carrozza's body was found with one bullet hole behind his right ear. Police noticed that, because there were no signs indicative of a struggle, the killer likely was someone Carrozza knew and trusted. "Franzese says he did not do it. Some agents and prosecutors wonder about that," the LA Times reported. In his autobiography, Franzese, seen above, wrote that many blamed him for the murder, some because his father, John "Sonny" Franzese, allegedly ordered it. Michael Franzese has never been charged in that or any other killing. Ive waited for your comment  Thanks. Do you maybe know about members in his crew ? Unfortunately not. But maybe michael run his father crew and was capo only in the name focused only on white collar crime and the gasoline bussiness.
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Re: Michael franseze crew
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Re: Michael franseze crew
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Also like how he explains the gotti situation about the flea market. How capeci got it wrong that you cant talk to another made guy at a sitdown like they wrote. And carmine would have flipped. I believe that story cause 25yrs later he still tells it and nothing changes. Gotti bought him out and it looked like gotti won but 4months later the place folded. Also like his moms take saying he failed in the crime life so he went to jesus to be excepted cause he couldnt cutt it. Thats cold from your own mom dammmmm. He must have told the feds everything but told them he would never take the stand against any made guys in nyc. he's changed the amount of money Gotti paid tho, it says 70k in the article but in one of those docs hes on he says 250k. its also strange that his mom disowned him and stuck up for Sonny, but years later was fiercely protective of John Jr when he took the stand against Sonny. even got into Sonny's face in the courthouse about it blaming him. what I didnt know previously to the article was that both Michael and Sonny had kids from past relationships. I take it none of them got involved in that life. also really interesting how he played the feds and kept whatever money he had stashed. I know this is a reach but it wouldnt be shocking if Carmine and little Ally make him pay some kind of a tax to talk about the things he talks about with no retribution.
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Re: Michael franseze crew
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Anyone think Sonny killed Michaels biological father ? (From above article)
Is he actually a rat against any LCN guys? Or is it just janitors and the like
And all because of a ten year sentence?
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Re: Michael franseze crew
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Anyone think Sonny killed Michaels biological father ? (From above article)
Is he actually a rat against any LCN guys? Or is it just janitors and the like
And all because of a ten year sentence? I think he really only ratted on Norby Walters. Maybe he gave them some intel during the Columbo wars of the 90s but i doubt it. Idk how the fuck the govt made that deal and never forced him to testify, that part still baffles me.. Has anyone ever definitively answered who took over Michael Franzeze's crew then and who is running it currently? Or did it splinter off into another crew?
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Re: Michael franseze crew
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01/04/17 03:11 AM
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Anyone think Sonny killed Michaels biological father ? (From above article)
Is he actually a rat against any LCN guys? Or is it just janitors and the like
And all because of a ten year sentence? I think he really only ratted on Norby Walters. Maybe he gave them some intel during the Columbo wars of the 90s but i doubt it. Idk how the fuck the govt made that deal and never forced him to testify, that part still baffles me.. Has anyone ever definitively answered who took over Michael Franzeze's crew then and who is running it currently? Or did it splinter off into another crew? He ratted on just about everybody. He testified against nobody but Norby Walters. He gave intel about the Colombo Family but not the wars of the early 90s unless biographical info.
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Re: Michael franseze crew
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Anyone think Sonny killed Michaels biological father ? (From above article)
Is he actually a rat against any LCN guys? Or is it just janitors and the like
And all because of a ten year sentence? the whole Michael was an adopted son thing struck me as odd. First, Mike thought his father was Sonny, then he learned later that Sonny wasn't his biological father, then later Mike actually learns Sonny IS his biological father. What the hell is really going on I wonder? Was Tina Capobianco that big of a whore?
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Re: Michael franseze crew
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01/04/17 04:49 PM
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Michael Franzese, whose father is a rapist, once claimed that the mafia view women and children as "sacred" on CNN in 2010.
He was never convicted of rape, do your homework a little better next time.
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Re: Michael franseze crew
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01/07/17 04:26 AM
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Well Michael tells a little different story about Sonny and his biological father than what seems to be said in the various preceding Posts.
I will try to remember the exact thing he said about a month ago and I will post it. Michael says exactly what I have said in the preceding post. I have it in my files. Thought Sonny was his dad, thought Sonny adopted him, realized Sonny is his actual biological father. That sums it up
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