Going off memory, maybe totally wrong...

When gravano turned, not long after didn't Casso try to cut his own deal but failed? Wasn't part of the reason that he had murder information gravano hadn't disclosed, or it contradicted gravano stories, but the Feds didn't care they just wanted gotti at any cost? So Casso got no deal?

How many murders was Casso suggesting gravano withheld from the Feds ?

I don't know if Casso ever went into detail with any murders Sammy didn't admit to. He did try to get his own deal, but there were numerous reasons they denied him the deal and gave him 455 years. He admitted to plotting to kill a prosecutor and a judge, he was caught in too many lies, he ran the WitSec unit in Otisville like his own personal fiefdom smuggling in heroin, lobsters, liqour, other drugs and anything he could get his hands on. Bribed prison workers to do it. Had several altercations with Big Sal Micciotta. Had 37 murders or more probably. Plus he flunked the psychiatric exam that said he was a lunatic. They knew they weren't gonna let Casso out of prison and back into society ever again. They just pumped all the info he had and threw him in jail for life which was a very wise thing to do. Casso put his faith in the fact they needed him to put Chin away. He should have used the Mafia Cops as his high card instead.

Yates is right. Casso did involve Gravano and the fact that he lied about murders that he himself ordered and committed and said that Gravano tried to pin those murders on Gotti, by claiming Gotti ordered them. He also told the feds that he knew for a fact that Gravano lied about not touching drugs and claimed Gravano tried to sell him kilos of cocaine. That wasnt the sole reason for them cutting Casso's deal though . But I think it was Selwyn Raab in "Five Families" who claimed that the feds wouldnt give that testimony any credence because it wouldve given Gotti a chance for appeal.

How was he in a witsec unit with no deal?

Technically he had a deal , but he violated the terms of that deal by still committing criminal acts while inside.

Even though it's kinda a shitty book, (Gaspipe) the author said people " in the know", could connect Sammy to 44 murders. He also said Sammy was one of his biggest buyers for drugs.

I mean, next to the whole Mafia Cops thing, which was true, this sounds a lot more plausible. Not that I'm saying I believe it, but it is one of those things that sticks in the back of my mind about these guys.

Who knows if he was telling the truth, or bullshitting.

Casso wasnt lying about Gravano. That much is evident as not long after he was caught up in the ectasy ring in Arizona, confirming that he was a drug trafficker and somewhat experienced in it. But that isnt the reason why Casso's deal with the FBI was voided.

They all do...They just used him for all the info and then double crossed him just like he did many times to others..what comes around goes around !!

Well maybe, but Casso was the only one who may have been caught by having another informant testify against him or report to his handlers the racketeering crimes he was committing within the witsec unit.

When the mafia cops were on trial, didn't Casso rescind earlier testimony and say they were, in fact, innocent?

What was his end goal there?

He said that in a phone conversation and wrote it in a letter to his defense lawyers, saying that they didnt kill Eddie Lino, that in fact he was a part of a hit team that gunned down Lino. He also said in the same letter that he couldnt "honestly disprove" that Eppolito & Caracappa had anything to do with Jimmy Hydell's kidnapping. In other words, he couldnt actually dismiss the supposed fact that they kidnapped Hydell. Thats why Casso wasnt allowed to testify and why the feds wouldnt continue any deals with him, he flip-flopped on his own stories and claims.


Hydells own mother says she saw the two cops take Hydell away, so there isnt much reason to believe that they were innocent of the crimes they were convicted for.

They also had caracoppa making inquiries regarding Hydells address and a few other things that both were directly tied to Hydell.
Those 2 are as guilty as the day is long.

Yeah, I have seen the Anthony Casso mob docs and read Brotherhoods too.

I never read Brotherhoods. And the only Casso doc I've seen was the badly informed "Mobsters" series.

Then you read Burton Kaplan's testimony and court files. So what.

I've read parts of Kaplans testimony. But you asked a question about Casso , I answered. Now you mad about the answer .

I was not asking you the question. I was asking anyone else.

This is a member forum, Moe. Anyone can answer any question they please. The answer was an accurate one.

Anyone can post what they please without being stalked, harassed and insulted too.

But did you or did you not just follow in the Alite thread and attempt a shitty insult simply because I believe Kasporozas claim that Alite denied him an interview? Who told you to grow up and stop with your insults? But here you are again, bitching and playing victim.