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Re: How was Carmine Persico on streets as Boss?
[Re: Zavattoni]
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06/18/17 07:25 AM
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He still had enough respect that they let him on the Commission, unlike Rusty Rastelli. Persico was still involved in Commission businesses and decisions. Don't know how much they respected him beyond that though.
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Re: How was Carmine Persico on streets as Boss?
[Re: AntSamuel]
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06/19/17 10:16 AM
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billymari
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Wild Bill was murdered for a few reasons. One, the Persicos were worried that he was going to stage a coup and take over the family. Cutolo did have a lot of supporters and underlings. Two, Cutolo allegedly called Persico a rat for acknowledging the existence of the Mafia in the 1986 Commission trial, which angered Persico. Lastly, Cutolo sided with Vic Orena in the war. The Persicos decided to demote Cutolo to soldier as punishment but then chose to kill him a few years later. I don't know if they were planning to kill him all along, or just decided to do it. But grudges are held in that life so I am certain a lot of Persico people wanted to see him go from the start.
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Re: How was Carmine Persico on streets as Boss?
[Re: pmac]
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06/19/17 11:52 AM
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Extortion
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And from what sonny franzese says about carmine and his kids and such was nothing but glowing respect and this was when his own son was wearing a wire against him around 2005. He was recored saying albert kid blast was a dog. Think thats bad in mob world. Where did you find out about that wiretap? A FOIA request or word of mouth, etc?
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Re: How was Carmine Persico on streets as Boss?
[Re: Extortion]
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06/19/17 01:26 PM
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And from what sonny franzese says about carmine and his kids and such was nothing but glowing respect and this was when his own son was wearing a wire against him around 2005. He was recored saying albert kid blast was a dog. Think thats bad in mob world. Where did you find out about that wiretap? A FOIA request or word of mouth, etc? I herd about that and it shocked me. I was always under the impression that there was big time bad blood even between the boys as boys . Extortion how you been have not seen you posting, Good to see u posting.
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Re: How was Carmine Persico on streets as Boss?
[Re: Serpiente]
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06/19/17 11:44 PM
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Extortion
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And from what sonny franzese says about carmine and his kids and such was nothing but glowing respect and this was when his own son was wearing a wire against him around 2005. He was recored saying albert kid blast was a dog. Think thats bad in mob world. Where did you find out about that wiretap? A FOIA request or word of mouth, etc? I herd about that and it shocked me. I was always under the impression that there was big time bad blood even between the boys as boys . Extortion how you been have not seen you posting, Good to see u posting. Hey Serp. Hangin' in there?
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Re: How was Carmine Persico on streets as Boss?
[Re: billymari]
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06/20/17 12:35 AM
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Wild Bill was murdered for a few reasons. One, the Persicos were worried that he was going to stage a coup and take over the family. Cutolo did have a lot of supporters and underlings. Two, Cutolo allegedly called Persico a rat for acknowledging the existence of the Mafia in the 1986 Commission trial, which angered Persico. Lastly, Cutolo sided with Vic Orena in the war. The Persicos decided to demote Cutolo to soldier as punishment but then chose to kill him a few years later. I don't know if they were planning to kill him all along, or just decided to do it. But grudges are held in that life so I am certain a lot of Persico people wanted to see him go from the start. All of this plus... In the end they went after him under the veil of the claims to Chris Paciello in Miami. Cutolo held weight in South Florida and when Paciello began operating down there successfully there was a series of sit downs over who he belonged to and who had a legitimate claim. This was used as the straw that broke the camels back and got Cutolo murdered while all the other things IMO weighed far more heavily into it, it was the Paciello claim that acted at the vehicle for his murder. P.S. Anyone have any idea what happened to his son? I know he got thrown out of Wit Sec but can't really find anything else about him.
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